Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ divine

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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
"Do you view the Lord Jesus Christ as God?"

I view the Lord Jesus Christ as the Word, and the Son of God.
It was the Word, pre-flesh, that was God.

Do you believe that the Word ceased being God when the Word became flesh?

Yes, as the Word had to lay aside very much to be born of a woman and walk as we walk.

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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
"Dake would likely conclude that you are most likely conflating verses about baptism by the Spirit into Christ with the ceremony of water baptism. For Dake, the two baptisms were different baptisms. Not the same baptism."

I feel they are different baptisms; the water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins done by men for men.
And the Baptism of the Holy Spirt being done by God for men.

How do you define "the Baptism of the Holy Spirit"?

It is the gift of the Holy Ghost, promised by Peter on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:38, and the Comforter promised by Jesus in John 14-15- and 16.
It is our "immersion" by/into the Spirit of God.

Some see a difference between the baptism "of" versus the baptism "with" the Spirit.

I see them as the same thing.

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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
"Dake would likely conclude that you are most likely conflating verses about baptism by the Spirit into Christ with the ceremony of water baptism. For Dake, the two baptisms were different baptisms. Not the same baptism."

I feel they are different baptisms; the water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins done by men for men.
And the Baptism of the Holy Spirt being done by God for men.

Dake taught that there are seven baptisms in scripture and three baptisms for believers:

Finis Jennings Dake wrote:
"Seven Baptisms in Scripture:
"1. John’s baptism in water (Mt. 3; Mk. 1; Lk. 3; 7:29–30; Jn. 1:31–33; 3:23–26; 10:40; Acts 1:5; 11:16; 19:3)
"2. Christ’s baptism in water (Jn. 3:22; 4:1–2)
"3. Baptism in suffering (Lk. 12:50)
"4. Baptism in the cloud and in the sea (1Cor. 10:2)
"5. Christian baptism in water (Mt. 28:19; Mk. 16:16; Acts 2:38–41; 8:12–16, 36–38; 9:18; 10:47–48; 16:15, 33; 18:8; 19:5; 22:16; 1Cor. 1:13–17; 1Pet. 3:21)
"6. Baptism into Christ and into His body (Rom. 6:3–7; 1Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27; Col. 2:12)
"7. Baptism in the Holy Spirit (Mt. 3:11, 14; 20:22–23; Mk. 1:8; 10:38–39; Lk. 3:16; Jn. 1:33; 7:37–39; Acts 1:5; 11:16; 19:2–3)

"Three Baptisms for Believers:
"1. Into Christ or into His body at repentance and the new birth (pt. , above). Called “one baptism” (Eph. 4:5), because it is the only baptism that saves the soul and brings into the body of Christ.
"2. Water baptism after one is saved (pt. , above and note, ).
"3. Spirit baptism, the enduement of power for service. It can take place before water baptism (Acts 10:44–48) or after it (Acts 1:4–8; 2:1–11; 8:12–21; 19:1–7).

"The Holy Spirit is the agent to baptize into Christ and into His body (1Cor. 12:13); Christ is the agent to baptize in the Holy Spirit (Mt. 3:11; Jn. 1:31–33); and the minister is the agent to baptize into water (Mt. 28:19)."
--- Finis Jennings Dake, The Dake Annotated Reference Bible (Dake Publishing, 1997), Mt 3:6.

Thanks for his info.
I do not agree with all of it.