Paul's persecution of the then new church was all according to the Jewish Law.Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:52 amSpiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:44 pm I still don't agree that all sin is intentional. There are New Testament examples of sins committed through ignorance.
See Paul's sins committed in ignorance and unbelief which he listed in 1st Timothy 1:13-16, for example. He didn't know he was sinning when he did those deeds and he didn't intend to sin when he did them. Yet, those acts counted towards Paul's being the chief of sinners.Spiritblade Disciple wrote: ↑Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:17 am Ignoring the potential dispensational discussions that we could launch into from here...
Paul's New Testament perspective still included the idea of sins of ignorance. In fact, Paul cites his ignorance as a reason for finding forgiveness.What do you mean that "they were not sins when he did... his OT actions... according to the [OT] Law"?Hill Top wrote: ↑Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:09 pm They were only sins from a NT perspective.
His OT actions were according to the Law of God.
They were not sins when he did them.
All NT sin must include temptation, lust, enticement, and conception.
In James' 1:14-15 formula, there is no room for ignorance.
How can obedience to God be called a sin ?
The mercy of God showed Paul his persecutions were not His will.Why did he need mercy for those actions if they were not sinful?
He didn't count them as sinful while he was doing them, as the Law called for them to be done.Didn't he count those sins as being so sinful that they qualified him as the "Chief of Sinners"?
In hind-sight, though, he saw that it was not God's will at all.
To show us that lust and intent, etc., are necessary to commit sin.Why does the James 1:14-15 formula preclude sinning via ignorance or deception?