Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ HEBREWS 10:26-27

[Justaned]

Sin, Wilful— Judgment: the warning is strong—if we go on sinning wilfully, there is no longer any sacrifice for our sins. There is no sacrifice anyplace that can take away our sins if we continue to sin. There is only judgment awaiting us.

What is wilful sin? It is choosing to live a life of sin instead of living a life of godliness; it is deliberately choosing to live for this world and self instead of living for Christ.

⇒ It is choosing to live for the world and never turning to God.

⇒ It is choosing to sin and never repenting and turning to God.

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins. He must trust that Jesus Christ died for his sins—actually sacrificed His life for man's sins. Jesus Christ is the only sacrifice for sins that is acceptable to God. Therefore if the wilful sinner—the person who continues on and on living for this world and for sin—is ever to be saved, he has to forsake his sin and turn to the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for cleansing.

But note a critical fact: this passage is not written to the unbeliever who wilfully sins. It is written to the person who has received the knowledge of the truth and wilfully sins. It is written...

• to those who have "full knowledge" (epignōsin PWS: 2275) of the truth (A.T. Robertson. Word Pictures In The New Testament, Vol. 5, p.413).

• to those who have once acquired the knowledge of the Truth (Amplified New Testament).

• to those who received the knowledge of the truth, "the revelation through Christ" (Marvin Vincent. Word Studies In The New Testament, Vol. 4, p.503).

• to those in whom "there is no lack of understanding of the truth" (Robert W. Ross. Hebrews. "The New Testament and Wycliffe Bible Commentary," ed. by Charles F. Pfeiffer and Everette F. Harrison. New York, NY: The Iverson Associates. Produced for Moody Monthly and Moody Press of Chicago, 971, p.929).

The importance and severity of the warning is seen in the fact that most, if not all, of the above four writers would hold to the security of the believer. Yet, they recognize the seriousness of the warning to all who profess Christ. In fact, every honest and thinking interpreter (how often this is lacking) of Scripture is forced by this Scripture to issue a warning to believers: take heed. There is the danger of apostasy—of withdrawing from Christ and fellow believers.

This is a severe warning for every generation. In fact, this is probably the most severe warning given in all of Scripture. The passage must be put in context. The judgment is upon those who sin wilfully after knowing the truth. What truth? Hebrews 10:22-25 says that the sin can be one of four failures:

⇒ Failing to draw near to God.

⇒ Failing to hold fast.

⇒ Failing to stir up other Christians to love one another.

⇒ Failing to assemble and worship together.



What is the judgment pronounced? "There remains no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for judgment" (Hebrews 10:26-27). Hebrews 10:30 says, "The Lord shall judge His people." The meaning seems to be that from the point of continuing in wilful sin to the point of repentance or of being taken home, there is no sacrifice that can forgive sins. There is no animal sacrifice and no other sacrifice including the sacrifice of Christ that can atone for sin. As the Scripture says, "If I regard iniquity in my heart the Lord will not hear me" (Psalm 66:18). Even if a person asks forgiveness, God cannot forgive so long as the person is insincere and continues to walk in sin. Even Christ's sacrifice has no effect apart from a sincere approach and earnest plea for forgiveness. Yet for those who truly ask forgiveness, there is complete forgiveness and perfect cleansing (1 John 1:6-10, esp. 1 John 1:9).

When reading a passage such as this, a person must always keep in mind the teaching of all Scripture. The judgment of the believer does not mean the Christian's salvation is lost. The Christian is saved by Christ's righteousness—all through life and eternity—not by his own righteous acts. But wilful sin breaks the Christian's fellowship with God and renders his service ineffective, and if he continues on and on in wilful sin, he shall suffer a great and fearful loss at the Judgment Seat of Christ. (See Deeper Study #1—2 Cor. 5:10; Deeper Study #1—1 John 5:16 for more discussion.)

The meaning seems to be this: it does not matter what a person professes.

⇒ He may say that he has trusted Christ as his Lord and Savior...

⇒ He may have received the knowledge of the truth...

⇒ He may have turned away from the world and to Christ just as the seed thrown upon the rocky soil...

...but if he chooses to return to the world and to live a life of sin, there is no sacrifice that can forgive his sins. Not even the sacrifice of Christ can forgive his sins.

Does this mean that the man has committed the unpardonable sin and can never be forgiven—even if he repents and turns to Christ? Note that this passage does not say this—not any place. What the passage is saying is this: the death and sacrifice of Jesus Christ has no effect upon a person who continues to sin and sin (wilfully sinning)...

• no matter how much knowledge of the truth he has.

• no matter how much the person may profess that he knows Christ.

God cannot forgive so long as a person is insincere and continues to walk and walk in sin. The sacrifice of Christ has no effect apart from a sincere approach and godly walk after Christ. As stated above, Scripture says, "If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me" (Psalm 66:18). However, we must never forget the teaching of Scripture about forgiveness, for if we do, there is no forgiveness for any of us. Scripture declares loudly and clearly that in Christ there is "redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our sins" (Ephes. 1:7).

Note a final fact about the warning: a person who has received the knowledge of the truth and returns to sinning has nothing to look forward to but judgment and the fury of wrath.

⇒ By judgment is meant the terrible day when the sins of men will be judged. And remember, there is no sacrifice that covers the sins of this person; therefore, he must bear his sins himself and face God.

⇒ By fiery indignation is meant a fierceness of fire (A.T. Robertson. Word Pictures In The New Testament, Vol. 5, p.413); the burning of wrath and indignation (Amplified New Testament); a devouring fire and everlasting burnings (Matthew Henry. Matthew Henry's Commentary, Vol. 6, p.935).


, The Preacher's Outline & Sermon Bible – Hebrew, James, (Chattanooga: Leadership Ministries Worldwide, 1991), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: "C. Warning Four: The Danger of Apostasy, of Withdrawing from Christ, 10:26-39".

Now if this does not explain it to you I don't know what will!
I think 99% of the problem with this passage is most of not all commentaries that even tackle these verses are written by men that believe in Once Saved Always Saved so they dance around what the verse is really saying.

[Rocky]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

[Justaned]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

Rocky
I said if willfully sin after knowing God you have rejected God. To then say I repent would clearly be double minded.
If you know God, then deny God can you really say you changed your mind and now you really believe in God. Is that not double minded. James 1:7-8 (NKJV)
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I'm saying the person that does this is lying. He lied when he said he knew God or he is lying now when he says he loves God. He is double minded, unstable and can't expect anything from the Lord.

Now you can define him as you please but that is clearly what he is.

Again this isn't a simple sin this is willful planned and conceived sin.

Watch your commentaries, most are written by OSAS that swear you can't lose your salvation, so this passage and the Hebrews 6:4-6 must be distorted to fit their theology in the first place so if it is distorted going in it will also be distorted going out.

[Rocky]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

Rocky
I said if willfully sin after knowing God you have rejected God. To then say I repent would clearly be double minded.
If you know God, then deny God can you really say you changed your mind and now you really believe in God. Is that not double minded. James 1:7-8 (NKJV)
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I'm saying the person that does this is lying. He lied when he said he knew God or he is lying now when he says he loves God. He is double minded, unstable and can't expect anything from the Lord.

Now you can define him as you please but that is clearly what he is.

Again this isn't a simple sin this is willful planned and conceived sin.

Watch your commentaries, most are written by OSAS that swear you can't lose your salvation, so this passage and the Hebrews 6:4-6 must be distorted to fit their theology in the first place so if it is distorted going in it will also be distorted going out.

I don't get commentary from OSAS. Actually it comes from a much older place. So you disagree with even the quote you used when you started this thread?? Because what you just posted is not what your quote is saying, and now I am confused again. I think I know what the problem may be, you may not be understanding backsliding and apostasy or you may think you never sin. Did you read the entire chapter? Because the way you are using this doesn't go with the rest of the chapter. And please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

[Justaned]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

Rocky
I said if willfully sin after knowing God you have rejected God. To then say I repent would clearly be double minded.
If you know God, then deny God can you really say you changed your mind and now you really believe in God. Is that not double minded. James 1:7-8 (NKJV)
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I'm saying the person that does this is lying. He lied when he said he knew God or he is lying now when he says he loves God. He is double minded, unstable and can't expect anything from the Lord.

Now you can define him as you please but that is clearly what he is.

Again this isn't a simple sin this is willful planned and conceived sin.

Watch your commentaries, most are written by OSAS that swear you can't lose your salvation, so this passage and the Hebrews 6:4-6 must be distorted to fit their theology in the first place so if it is distorted going in it will also be distorted going out.

I don't get commentary from OSAS. Actually it comes from a much older place. So you disagree with even the quote you used when you started this thread?? Because what you just posted is not what your quote is saying, and now I am confused again. I think I know what the problem may be, you may not be understanding backsliding and apostasy or you may think you never sin. Did you read the entire chapter? Because the way you are using this doesn't go with the rest of the chapter. And please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Rocky

please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Please I think that is nicest thing you have ever said to me. I'm grateful that our ideas are foreign to each other.
How is my quote different that what I said at the beginning of the this thread?

[Rocky]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

Rocky
I said if willfully sin after knowing God you have rejected God. To then say I repent would clearly be double minded.
If you know God, then deny God can you really say you changed your mind and now you really believe in God. Is that not double minded. James 1:7-8 (NKJV)
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I'm saying the person that does this is lying. He lied when he said he knew God or he is lying now when he says he loves God. He is double minded, unstable and can't expect anything from the Lord.

Now you can define him as you please but that is clearly what he is.

Again this isn't a simple sin this is willful planned and conceived sin.

Watch your commentaries, most are written by OSAS that swear you can't lose your salvation, so this passage and the Hebrews 6:4-6 must be distorted to fit their theology in the first place so if it is distorted going in it will also be distorted going out.

I don't get commentary from OSAS. Actually it comes from a much older place. So you disagree with even the quote you used when you started this thread?? Because what you just posted is not what your quote is saying, and now I am confused again. I think I know what the problem may be, you may not be understanding backsliding and apostasy or you may think you never sin. Did you read the entire chapter? Because the way you are using this doesn't go with the rest of the chapter. And please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Rocky

please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Please I think that is nicest thing you have ever said to me. I'm grateful that our ideas are foreign to each other.
How is my quote different that what I said at the beginning of the this thread?

I meant theologically your beliefs are foreign to me. I get really confused by you sometimes, mainly because a lot of the things you say I have never heard anyone say the things you say or state, its like you are your own authority, but that could just be me. Any way, the quote that you used is has a different perspective then what are saying this verse means. Remember you did say you sin willfully that you cannot come back to God You pretty much said there is no hope of coming back to God, the quote you used says you can.

The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice

And the quote has a different position than you do on backsliding

this passage is not written to the unbeliever who wilfully sins. It is written to the person who has received the knowledge of the truth and wilfully sins

Go back and read the quote. Where ever you got it from is not saying what you are saying. It is saying the believer can backslide and is loose his salvation but is able to return and repent and come back.

[Watchman2013]

First off, I'd like to thank Justaned for being a stalwart, unflagging defender of The Faith, and The Word of God. He best exhibits the creed of the Bereans...

Now, secondly, as to the general tenor of this thread, Hebrews 10:26, 27, I've never seen so many positions that seem to be contrary to The Word of God. If Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, were standing here, bodily, I think the look on His Countenance would be one of astonishment. Me, I'm a bit confused here. Hope you'll all forgive me, but I believe He would also be shaking His head, at the mental gymnastics people are going through here...

Why cannot we take God at, and by, His Word? Reverend Dake said that The Word of God is the easiest of all books to read, and the easiest to understand. Why is it that some take it, The Word of God, and parse it, twist it, and make it their own? Is not God's Word, His? Who gave us the right to change God's Word?

Our God is a jealous God. He IS His Word. Reverend Dake did a superb work, in teaching how to interpret and understand God's Word. Likewise, Reverend Dake did the best teaching I've ever read, on how to understand Biblical prophecy. When you consider that The Word of God, in the form of The Holy Bible, comes with The Author included, it's hard to understand how people have a hard time understanding and believing The Bible...

We should make every effort to not only believe, but have faith, in God, His Son, His Spirit, and His Word... To do less, is unsatisfactory...

Maranatha

Watchman2013

[Rocky]

First off, I'd like to thank Justaned for being a stalwart, unflagging defender of The Faith, and The Word of God. He best exhibits the creed of the Bereans...

Now, secondly, as to the general tenor of this thread, Hebrews 10:26, 27, I've never seen so many positions that seem to be contrary to The Word of God. If Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, were standing here, bodily, I think the look on His Countenance would be one of astonishment. Me, I'm a bit confused here. Hope you'll all forgive me, but I believe He would also be shaking His head, at the mental gymnastics people are going through here...

Why cannot we take God at, and by, His Word? Reverend Dake said that The Word of God is the easiest of all books to read, and the easiest to understand. Why is it that some take it, The Word of God, and parse it, twist it, and make it their own? Is not God's Word, His? Who gave us the right to change God's Word?

Our God is a jealous God. He IS His Word. Reverend Dake did a superb work, in teaching how to interpret and understand God's Word. Likewise, Reverend Dake did the best teaching I've ever read, on how to understand Biblical prophecy. When you consider that The Word of God, in the form of The Holy Bible, comes with The Author included, it's hard to understand how people have a hard time understanding and believing The Bible...

We should make every effort to not only believe, but have faith, in God, His Son, His Spirit, and His Word... To do less, is unsatisfactory...

Maranatha

Watchman2013

?????

[Justaned]

That was a long copy and paste Ed, but still wrong just joking, Well not completely

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin. The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice for his sins.

Funny that you are using this. You said if you sinfully you can't come back. Remember that?. That was the problem I had. I don't even have a problem with this quote, But remember you said if you sin willfully you can't come back to God. Now what you have here is half true, here is an early church commentary on this verse

They “neglect to meet together as is the habit of some.” They choose to leave the “assembly” (the Eucharistic assembly), and thus leave or “spurn the blood of the” New Covenant to go back to the Old Covenant. And then they REMAIN obstinate in this sin.

Yeah I like to use Polycarp and clement and Ignatius of Antioch commentary sometimes, this is actually a Catholic commentary and one I actually agree with.. And if you read the entire chapter he is talking about the old sacrifices and Judaism. and then tells them not to forsake the assembly in the verses prior verse 26. Context context context.

Rocky
I said if willfully sin after knowing God you have rejected God. To then say I repent would clearly be double minded.
If you know God, then deny God can you really say you changed your mind and now you really believe in God. Is that not double minded. James 1:7-8 (NKJV)
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

I'm saying the person that does this is lying. He lied when he said he knew God or he is lying now when he says he loves God. He is double minded, unstable and can't expect anything from the Lord.

Now you can define him as you please but that is clearly what he is.

Again this isn't a simple sin this is willful planned and conceived sin.

Watch your commentaries, most are written by OSAS that swear you can't lose your salvation, so this passage and the Hebrews 6:4-6 must be distorted to fit their theology in the first place so if it is distorted going in it will also be distorted going out.

I don't get commentary from OSAS. Actually it comes from a much older place. So you disagree with even the quote you used when you started this thread?? Because what you just posted is not what your quote is saying, and now I am confused again. I think I know what the problem may be, you may not be understanding backsliding and apostasy or you may think you never sin. Did you read the entire chapter? Because the way you are using this doesn't go with the rest of the chapter. And please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Rocky

please don't take this wrong but you are very confusing to me. I mean you have a lot ideas that are very foreign to me.

Please I think that is nicest thing you have ever said to me. I'm grateful that our ideas are foreign to each other.
How is my quote different that what I said at the beginning of the this thread?

I meant theologically your beliefs are foreign to me. I get really confused by you sometimes, mainly because a lot of the things you say I have never heard anyone say the things you say or state, its like you are your own authority, but that could just be me. Any way, the quote that you used is has a different perspective then what are saying this verse means. Remember you did say you sin willfully that you cannot come back to God You pretty much said there is no hope of coming back to God, the quote you used says you can.

The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice

And the quote has a different position than you do on backsliding

this passage is not written to the unbeliever who wilfully sins. It is written to the person who has received the knowledge of the truth and wilfully sins

Go back and read the quote. Where ever you got it from is not saying what you are saying. It is saying the believer can backslide and is loose his salvation but is able to return and repent and come back.

Rocky
You said the passage in the quote said

The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice

But the whole quote clearly says

Wilful sin is choosing to continue on and on in a life of sin and never turning to God. This person—the person who wilfully sins—shall never have any sacrifice for sin.The only conceivable way he can ever be acceptable to God is to repent and turn to Christ as the sacrifice

The point is the willful sinner will not do this by the fact he is willingly sinning after having received the knowledge of the truth he is willfully sinning. Don't you see if someone is willfully sinning they are not repenting are they? Remember this all started with I said no true Christian will willfully sin. I believe that. And no that is not saying a Christian will not sin.

And of course it is talking to saved people that is point. Willfully sinning after knowing the truth.
And I never said backslider the word backslider is not in scripture that is a term made up by preachers.

[Rocky]

First off, I'd like to thank Justaned for being a stalwart, unflagging defender of The Faith, and The Word of God. He best exhibits the creed of the Bereans...

Now, secondly, as to the general tenor of this thread, Hebrews 10:26, 27, I've never seen so many positions that seem to be contrary to The Word of God. If Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, were standing here, bodily, I think the look on His Countenance would be one of astonishment. Me, I'm a bit confused here. Hope you'll all forgive me, but I believe He would also be shaking His head, at the mental gymnastics people are going through here...

Why cannot we take God at, and by, His Word? Reverend Dake said that The Word of God is the easiest of all books to read, and the easiest to understand. Why is it that some take it, The Word of God, and parse it, twist it, and make it their own? Is not God's Word, His? Who gave us the right to change God's Word?

Our God is a jealous God. He IS His Word. Reverend Dake did a superb work, in teaching how to interpret and understand God's Word. Likewise, Reverend Dake did the best teaching I've ever read, on how to understand Biblical prophecy. When you consider that The Word of God, in the form of The Holy Bible, comes with The Author included, it's hard to understand how people have a hard time understanding and believing The Bible...

We should make every effort to not only believe, but have faith, in God, His Son, His Spirit, and His Word... To do less, is unsatisfactory...

Maranatha

Watchman2013

So actually what are you trying to say? And who is being contrary to The Word of God? Cause to me your post sounds a bit condescending, And forgive me but a bit pointless. why not just state your position on the scriptures that is being discussed and stick to the Thread.. No one told Ed to make the Op if you make an OP you may get disagreements that is just how internet forums work. Its not like Ed and myself are really hating on each other just discussing what the Op is about and showing our differences.