Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ One who Hinders part 2

[Justaned]

George Barna release a new research and I thought this was interesting since some say the church is the hinderer of 2 thess 2:7.

Two-Thirds of Americans Say Pro Athletes Have More Influence on Society than Faith Leaders
http://www.barna.org/culture-articles/6 ... th-leaders

There is plenty of research to show the declining sway of clergy, but who are Americans looking to instead? By more than a three-to-one margin, Americans believe professional sports players have more influence on society than do faith leaders. Overall, about two-thirds of Americans (64%) say they think pro athletes have more influence in American society today than do professional faith leaders (19%). Others say both (8%) have equal influence or are not sure (10%).

[Justaned]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

[bibleman]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

[Justaned]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

You are kidding right? How about the guy that says send in $1000 and God will return to you $10,000 you seriously don't think people are thinking more of chance for material wealth than of spiritual health.

[branham1965]

i think you are right on REVED.

our Country is in bad shape.the change in my lifetime is mindboggling.

" The Spirit of God is being lifted more and more saith the LORD.more and more He is pouring out His Judgements."Reverend Ernest W. Angley

it just horrifies me what our children will see.

George Barna release a new research and I thought this was interesting since some say the church is the hinderer of 2 thess 2:7.

Two-Thirds of Americans Say Pro Athletes Have More Influence on Society than Faith Leaders
http://www.barna.org/culture-articles/6 ... th-leaders

There is plenty of research to show the declining sway of clergy, but who are Americans looking to instead? By more than a three-to-one margin, Americans believe professional sports players have more influence on society than do faith leaders. Overall, about two-thirds of Americans (64%) say they think pro athletes have more influence in American society today than do professional faith leaders (19%). Others say both (8%) have equal influence or are not sure (10%).

[bibleman]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

You are kidding right? How about the guy that says send in $1000 and God will return to you $10,000 you seriously don't think people are thinking more of chance for material wealth than of spiritual health.

Hi Ed,

What guy is that.... the one who says send 1,000 and you will get 10,000?

I don't know who that would be.

[Justaned]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

You are kidding right? How about the guy that says send in $1000 and God will return to you $10,000 you seriously don't think people are thinking more of chance for material wealth than of spiritual health.

Hi Ed,

What guy is that.... the one who says send 1,000 and you will get 10,000?

I don't know who that would be.

Not here to slander people I'm here to discuss theology and learn why others hold to the positions they hold to.

[bibleman]

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

You are kidding right? How about the guy that says send in $1000 and God will return to you $10,000 you seriously don't think people are thinking more of chance for material wealth than of spiritual health.

Hi Ed,

What guy is that.... the one who says send 1,000 and you will get 10,000?

I don't know who that would be.

Not here to slander people I'm here to discuss theology and learn why others hold to the positions they hold to.

In other words there is nobody, you just made that up to bad mouth preachers.

[branham1965]

REVED
i hope you know i care about you.here he goes again.
AND im sure you know ALOT of people who fit this bill of sale.no pun intended.its the "MASH" episodes.
what gets my feathers ruffled about the board .... is people dont say what they mean...i think folks should say it.say it.is my maxim.speak it out.

No comments?

Well I will make one. It appears to me that people tend to listen to people that make a ton of money. That tells me people are more worried about material things than they are their spiritual destiny.

I will add that this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success.

Scripture warns us against trying to gain the world at the expense of our souls.

Hi Justaned,

Above you said: "...this is one of the problems I have with the prosperity move in the church. Those that teach it tend to shift people's focus from spiritual awareness to material success."

Would you have an example of that.

I have listened to the prosperity message for years and have NEVER heard anyone do that.

You are kidding right? How about the guy that says send in $1000 and God will return to you $10,000 you seriously don't think people are thinking more of chance for material wealth than of spiritual health.

Hi Ed,

What guy is that.... the one who says send 1,000 and you will get 10,000?

I don't know who that would be.

Not here to slander people I'm here to discuss theology and learn why others hold to the positions they hold to.

[branham1965]

i meant here i me billy goes again.not the Administrator.


need more MASH.