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[macca]

Ed: "blah blah blah blah blah"

Whatever

EDIT to add: I do want to congratulate you on your promotion. Somehow, I did not get the memo about your "obvious" promotion as Head of the Heavenly Treasury Department. Since you are speaking as though you are qualified to tell everyone wjether or not they are permitted to be blessed by God, and by how much. So, CONGRATS Ed!! I hope you do Gods job proud!!!

Get answer absolutely no evidence, no constructive comment only an attack on my person.

I came across this quote today you might like because it is speaking to your actions.
[quote]"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

[/quote]



Thanks for that quote Ed, that pictures the Australian Lobour party to a tee. spot on. nothing but a bunch of red-ragers.

opps, soory i'm off topic again

macca

[cpbeller]

it is because I am never going to take anything you say seriously anymore, Ed.

The hypocrisy that comes from your typewriter is amazing. So, you can call this whatever you want to call it...but I am not going to take you seriously...ever.

EDIT to add: Oh, and you forgot to read my disclaimer...not to mention, if you were offended, then the "problem is yours, not mine" (doesn't that sound familiar?)

[Justaned]

it is because I am never going to take anything you say seriously anymore, Ed. ...



...EDIT to add: Oh, and you forgot to read my disclaimer...not to mention, if you were offended, then the "problem is yours, not mine" (doesn't that sound familiar?)

Chris you never did take anything I said seriously. That would require rational thinking. Instead you have left your hatred, your anger, and your desire to one up me rule you as if you were some wild beast. You say things without thinking in one attempt after another to try to support your position without facts.

I really believe you have some serious problems and I'm certain God has shown me that you are going through serious life crises, instead of railing on this forum I pray you would spend that time in prayer for God to help you through what you are going through. I pray for you but I'm almost certain your attitude toward me renders those prayers useless.

Your disclaimer

DISCLAIMER: Whatever I say or do not say may or may not apply to you based on whether you are or are not a Christian. And whether you are or are not a Christian may or may not be based off of whatever denomination you may or may not be a part of.

Chris read this to yourself. Does it make a lot of sense to you? Is it Christlike? Is it what you want to say to even someone you think is in the world let alone someone that may be in Christ and you refuse to accept that? Think about your words Chris, one day you must give an accounting for each one. I pray God has mercy on all of us on this account, but I believe it is each of our responsibility to minimize the hatred, anger and hurt we bring into the world.

Lord I pray right now that you will forgive me for any part I played in bringing Chris to this point. I repent of speaking harshly to him and obviously provoking him. Forgive me Lord. Lord I also pray right now that you will touch Chris and heal any wounds that I have caused. I ask Your forgiveness in that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this hate. I also pray that the things Chris is going through that you will show him and his loved ones the same mercy you have repeatedly shown me. Touch Chris strengthen and under gird him and allow Chris to come out of the fire of this tribulation as a pure metal that you will use in a mighty way to your glory and honor. Bring a calmness and a peace to the relationship Chris and I have. Let us realize the adversary is delighted when he can stir turmoil and condescension
in the body of Christ. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen

[Rocky]

it is because I am never going to take anything you say seriously anymore, Ed. ...



...EDIT to add: Oh, and you forgot to read my disclaimer...not to mention, if you were offended, then the "problem is yours, not mine" (doesn't that sound familiar?)

Chris you never did take anything I said seriously. That would require rational thinking. Instead you have left your hatred, your anger, and your desire to one up me rule you as if you were some wild beast. You say things without thinking in one attempt after another to try to support your position without facts.

I really believe you have some serious problems and I'm certain God has shown me that you are going through serious life crises, instead of railing on this forum I pray you would spend that time in prayer for God to help you through what you are going through. I pray for you but I'm almost certain your attitude toward me renders those prayers useless.

Your disclaimer

DISCLAIMER: Whatever I say or do not say may or may not apply to you based on whether you are or are not a Christian. And whether you are or are not a Christian may or may not be based off of whatever denomination you may or may not be a part of.

Chris read this to yourself. Does it make a lot of sense to you? Is it Christlike? Is it what you want to say to even someone you think is in the world let alone someone that may be in Christ and you refuse to accept that? Think about your words Chris, one day you must give an accounting for each one. I pray God has mercy on all of us on this account, but I believe it is each of our responsibility to minimize the hatred, anger and hurt we bring into the world.

Lord I pray right now that you will forgive me for any part I played in bringing Chris to this point. I repent of speaking harshly to him and obviously provoking him. Forgive me Lord. Lord I also pray right now that you will touch Chris and heal any wounds that I have caused. I ask Your forgiveness in that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this hate. I also pray that the things Chris is going through that you will show him and his loved ones the same mercy you have repeatedly shown me. Touch Chris strengthen and under gird him and allow Chris to come out of the fire of this tribulation as a pure metal that you will use in a mighty way to your glory and honor. Bring a calmness and a peace to the relationship Chris and I have. Let us realize the adversary is delighted when he can stir turmoil and condescension
in the body of Christ. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen

[cpbeller]

it is because I am never going to take anything you say seriously anymore, Ed. ...



...EDIT to add: Oh, and you forgot to read my disclaimer...not to mention, if you were offended, then the "problem is yours, not mine" (doesn't that sound familiar?)

Chris you never did take anything I said seriously. That would require rational thinking. Instead you have left your hatred, your anger, and your desire to one up me rule you as if you were some wild beast. You say things without thinking in one attempt after another to try to support your position without facts.

I really believe you have some serious problems and I'm certain God has shown me that you are going through serious life crises, instead of railing on this forum I pray you would spend that time in prayer for God to help you through what you are going through. I pray for you but I'm almost certain your attitude toward me renders those prayers useless.

Your disclaimer

DISCLAIMER: Whatever I say or do not say may or may not apply to you based on whether you are or are not a Christian. And whether you are or are not a Christian may or may not be based off of whatever denomination you may or may not be a part of.

Chris read this to yourself. Does it make a lot of sense to you? Is it Christlike? Is it what you want to say to even someone you think is in the world let alone someone that may be in Christ and you refuse to accept that? Think about your words Chris, one day you must give an accounting for each one. I pray God has mercy on all of us on this account, but I believe it is each of our responsibility to minimize the hatred, anger and hurt we bring into the world.

Lord I pray right now that you will forgive me for any part I played in bringing Chris to this point. I repent of speaking harshly to him and obviously provoking him. Forgive me Lord. Lord I also pray right now that you will touch Chris and heal any wounds that I have caused. I ask Your forgiveness in that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this hate. I also pray that the things Chris is going through that you will show him and his loved ones the same mercy you have repeatedly shown me. Touch Chris strengthen and under gird him and allow Chris to come out of the fire of this tribulation as a pure metal that you will use in a mighty way to your glory and honor. Bring a calmness and a peace to the relationship Chris and I have. Let us realize the adversary is delighted when he can stir turmoil and condescension
in the body of Christ. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen

ok...where to start...

1. I am not going through any kind of "life crisis". Actually, God has blessed me with a great new job, that has eliminated so very much stress from my life (no longer working for Walmart). So, no crisis going on here...so I am not sure what voice you were hearing, but I can assure you...it was not the Lord telling you anything about me.

2. The "that is your problem, not mine" is a word for word qoute from you in your replies to Rocky about the clothes he wears.

3. The "Disclaimer"? Yeah, that done because of the stupid criticism from you and Watchman over Kenneth Copeland not giving a disclaimer as to who he was preaching to. Interesting you think that that is not "Christlike", yet, you and Watchman seem to think it should be done.

4. You go on about how you are mistreated on here, yet, you say I am full of hatred, not a rational thinker, prideful, and comparable to a "wild beast". Yeah...now, you have said these things about me in the past. In fact, you think your position should be respected, all the while disrepecting nearly everyone elses position. You have declared my (and not just mine, but nearly everyone on this board) beliefs as being foolish, rubbish, blasphemas, heretical, and the list can go on and on. But yet, when confronted with the reasons why we believe what we believe, you shrug it off and tell us we are not thinking rationally, full of rubbish, ect and ect because we do not see it the way you do.

5. Thanks for the prayer, but again...I am not going through any life crisis. I am blessed with being able to spend quality time with my family, especially this weekend, as I have a 4-day weekend (first time in 12 years) for the holiday. I have a job that was a God-send. My life, both here on earth, and spiritually with God is great. So, maybe you were not hearing correctly from the Lord in regards to me, at this moment.

6. I no longer take anything you say seriously anymore simply because I cannot bring myself to believe that a Christian, and in fact, a Pentacostal Christian preacher, would ever believe the things you say you believe. Also, the fact that you have been backtracking on your original stance on authority/victory over the enemy through Jesus. Now, you are slightly changing your stance from "no victory or authority over the enemy" to "we have it through Jesus"...and all the while saying that you were always saying that. You did not say that to begin with, yet, you continue to lie about it. Yes, I said you lied about it. Because you have. Maybe you did not lie purposefully, but you did lie, nonetheless.

7. When you think I don't like you, or that I even "hate" you. You are only partially correct. I do not like what you say, I do not like what you claim. You have had the audacity to declare that you are a "high" worshipper, while I am a "low" worshipper (whatever all that means). What you have meant in that, though, I do know. You and I both know what you were saying. I do not like the way you are so bias towards ministers that you disagree with, but you claim victimhood when ppl disagree with you on here. Why is it ok for you to wage verbal war on ppl, but when it comes back at you, you get soggy-faced and complain about being mistreated? I will admit, I have not been "nice" to you...I do not like what you have to say. I cannot say I like you or I don't like you. I know that I do not like your online personality. I do not like what you do on this board, and the things you post on this board, in your attacks on ppl and beliefs that you refuse to even try to understand. So, that is why I come against you the way I do. I believe you are teaching false teachings. But know this...I have deleted/reworded so many posts I wanted to post to you, but I believe the Lord stayed my hand because they were too harsh. There have been many things I wanted to say, but held back and tried to find a "nicer" way to put them. But when I see you come on here and spread the stuff you do, I can only take that for so long, especially when you want to attack ministers that you have no clue what they are really doing. In these things, you seem to speak more out of your backside than anything else. That is why I come against you the way I do...

8. You have "prayed" for me before...funny thing is, this "prayer" seems quite...oh, I don't know...showy, maybe? What are you trying to prove by "praying" this out in the public view like this? The whole prayer really seems pretty, I don't know...condescending towards me. It is like you are saying, "I know I was wrong, but that Chris guy, Lord He REALLY needs your help...look how crazy he is...stupid too". Thanks, but no thanks. If you wanted to pray for me, why not just pray in private? Why pray up something like that, mentioning how "messed up" I am, because, afterall, God told you I was about to lose it all. Again, thanks...but no thanks...

Honestly, Ed...I am over it, if I ever was under it. You are who you are, you do what you do, and you say what you say. That is fine, I guess. I just don't like it. It is really as simple as that. Sure, you took some of the blame (while claiming God told you I was crazy), but I believe you are so far off and way from God...that I really don't know what to do or say to you. Keep on keeping on, I guess...

And you can take this post as anyway you want...personal attack, maliciousness, hatred, or just me going bonkers (like God told you)...whatever. You always fail to read what we are saying, coming to your own conclusions without understanding what anyone is saying. Go ahead...but keep your self-righteous prayers to yourself next time...

[Justaned]

it is because I am never going to take anything you say seriously anymore, Ed. ...



...EDIT to add: Oh, and you forgot to read my disclaimer...not to mention, if you were offended, then the "problem is yours, not mine" (doesn't that sound familiar?)

Chris you never did take anything I said seriously. That would require rational thinking. Instead you have left your hatred, your anger, and your desire to one up me rule you as if you were some wild beast. You say things without thinking in one attempt after another to try to support your position without facts.

I really believe you have some serious problems and I'm certain God has shown me that you are going through serious life crises, instead of railing on this forum I pray you would spend that time in prayer for God to help you through what you are going through. I pray for you but I'm almost certain your attitude toward me renders those prayers useless.

Your disclaimer

DISCLAIMER: Whatever I say or do not say may or may not apply to you based on whether you are or are not a Christian. And whether you are or are not a Christian may or may not be based off of whatever denomination you may or may not be a part of.

Chris read this to yourself. Does it make a lot of sense to you? Is it Christlike? Is it what you want to say to even someone you think is in the world let alone someone that may be in Christ and you refuse to accept that? Think about your words Chris, one day you must give an accounting for each one. I pray God has mercy on all of us on this account, but I believe it is each of our responsibility to minimize the hatred, anger and hurt we bring into the world.

Lord I pray right now that you will forgive me for any part I played in bringing Chris to this point. I repent of speaking harshly to him and obviously provoking him. Forgive me Lord. Lord I also pray right now that you will touch Chris and heal any wounds that I have caused. I ask Your forgiveness in that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this hate. I also pray that the things Chris is going through that you will show him and his loved ones the same mercy you have repeatedly shown me. Touch Chris strengthen and under gird him and allow Chris to come out of the fire of this tribulation as a pure metal that you will use in a mighty way to your glory and honor. Bring a calmness and a peace to the relationship Chris and I have. Let us realize the adversary is delighted when he can stir turmoil and condescension
in the body of Christ. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen

ok...where to start...

1. I am not going through any kind of "life crisis". Actually, God has blessed me with a great new job, that has eliminated so very much stress from my life (no longer working for Walmart). So, no crisis going on here...so I am not sure what voice you were hearing, but I can assure you...it was not the Lord telling you anything about me.

2. The "that is your problem, not mine" is a word for word qoute from you in your replies to Rocky about the clothes he wears.

3. The "Disclaimer"? Yeah, that done because of the stupid criticism from you and Watchman over Kenneth Copeland not giving a disclaimer as to who he was preaching to. Interesting you think that that is not "Christlike", yet, you and Watchman seem to think it should be done.

4. You go on about how you are mistreated on here, yet, you say I am full of hatred, not a rational thinker, prideful, and comparable to a "wild beast". Yeah...now, you have said these things about me in the past. In fact, you think your position should be respected, all the while disrepecting nearly everyone elses position. You have declared my (and not just mine, but nearly everyone on this board) beliefs as being foolish, rubbish, blasphemas, heretical, and the list can go on and on. But yet, when confronted with the reasons why we believe what we believe, you shrug it off and tell us we are not thinking rationally, full of rubbish, ect and ect because we do not see it the way you do.

5. Thanks for the prayer, but again...I am not going through any life crisis. I am blessed with being able to spend quality time with my family, especially this weekend, as I have a 4-day weekend (first time in 12 years) for the holiday. I have a job that was a God-send. My life, both here on earth, and spiritually with God is great. So, maybe you were not hearing correctly from the Lord in regards to me, at this moment.

6. I no longer take anything you say seriously anymore simply because I cannot bring myself to believe that a Christian, and in fact, a Pentacostal Christian preacher, would ever believe the things you say you believe. Also, the fact that you have been backtracking on your original stance on authority/victory over the enemy through Jesus. Now, you are slightly changing your stance from "no victory or authority over the enemy" to "we have it through Jesus"...and all the while saying that you were always saying that. You did not say that to begin with, yet, you continue to lie about it. Yes, I said you lied about it. Because you have. Maybe you did not lie purposefully, but you did lie, nonetheless.

7. When you think I don't like you, or that I even "hate" you. You are only partially correct. I do not like what you say, I do not like what you claim. You have had the audacity to declare that you are a "high" worshipper, while I am a "low" worshipper (whatever all that means). What you have meant in that, though, I do know. You and I both know what you were saying. I do not like the way you are so bias towards ministers that you disagree with, but you claim victimhood when ppl disagree with you on here. Why is it ok for you to wage verbal war on ppl, but when it comes back at you, you get soggy-faced and complain about being mistreated? I will admit, I have not been "nice" to you...I do not like what you have to say. I cannot say I like you or I don't like you. I know that I do not like your online personality. I do not like what you do on this board, and the things you post on this board, in your attacks on ppl and beliefs that you refuse to even try to understand. So, that is why I come against you the way I do. I believe you are teaching false teachings. But know this...I have deleted/reworded so many posts I wanted to post to you, but I believe the Lord stayed my hand because they were too harsh. There have been many things I wanted to say, but held back and tried to find a "nicer" way to put them. But when I see you come on here and spread the stuff you do, I can only take that for so long, especially when you want to attack ministers that you have no clue what they are really doing. In these things, you seem to speak more out of your backside than anything else. That is why I come against you the way I do...

8. You have "prayed" for me before...funny thing is, this "prayer" seems quite...oh, I don't know...showy, maybe? What are you trying to prove by "praying" this out in the public view like this? The whole prayer really seems pretty, I don't know...condescending towards me. It is like you are saying, "I know I was wrong, but that Chris guy, Lord He REALLY needs your help...look how crazy he is...stupid too". Thanks, but no thanks. If you wanted to pray for me, why not just pray in private? Why pray up something like that, mentioning how "messed up" I am, because, afterall, God told you I was about to lose it all. Again, thanks...but no thanks...

Honestly, Ed...I am over it, if I ever was under it. You are who you are, you do what you do, and you say what you say. That is fine, I guess. I just don't like it. It is really as simple as that. Sure, you took some of the blame (while claiming God told you I was crazy), but I believe you are so far off and way from God...that I really don't know what to do or say to you. Keep on keeping on, I guess...

And you can take this post as anyway you want...personal attack, maliciousness, hatred, or just me going bonkers (like God told you)...whatever. You always fail to read what we are saying, coming to your own conclusions without understanding what anyone is saying. Go ahead...but keep your self-righteous prayers to yourself next time...

Chris let me correct one point I did not mean to say God told me you were going bonkers. If I said that or implied it I am sorry and say that is not true. I believe God did show me awhile back that you were going through a life crisis. If that was wrong praise God. That was what I felt in the spirit.
To me it explained your anger and hatred that you clearly exhibit.

I will give you the same post I gave Rocky Think about it.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are no less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

As far as praying for you, rest assured I will never pray again in public for you. I'm sorry if you felt it was less than genuine. That was not my intent. First I believe when we pray for someone we should let them know how we are praying so they can agree it speaks to their spirit. Scripture instructs us to pray that way.
Also my intent was I had the hope that by showing you how I pray for you, you would better know my heart toward you. Apparently that isn't the case. If that insults you senses I apologize.

As far as you being done with it I have asked you many times that we just ignore each other. However when I did ignore you it insulted you even more. If you are done with it fine. I will ignore you in the future and please ignore me also.
I will not mention you nor will I implicate you in any future posts I only ask you show the same restraint. Agreed?