Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ PROOF OF A PREE-ADAMITE WORLD

[bibleman]

All the evidence you offer proves the earth was covered with mixture of land and water and God had to set apart the water from the land. That does not prove there was a earth before this. Only that God brought all the elements of the earth and heavens together at first and then had to set them in order.

Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food.

Also a flood on earth would not wipe out the sun yet genesis tells us God created that on the fourth day. So the whole universe would have to have been recreated. If the universe was recreated the earth would have to have been recreated also.

I don't think this planet or any planet could have gone through the gravitational stresses that had to occur if the universe was wiped out (at least the sun) then recreated again.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

WRONG!

If the sun did not exist until the 4th day then how did you have 3 days on earth before the 4th day?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

[Justaned]

All the evidence you offer proves the earth was covered with mixture of land and water and God had to set apart the water from the land. That does not prove there was a earth before this. Only that God brought all the elements of the earth and heavens together at first and then had to set them in order.

Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food.

Also a flood on earth would not wipe out the sun yet genesis tells us God created that on the fourth day. So the whole universe would have to have been recreated. If the universe was recreated the earth would have to have been recreated also.

I don't think this planet or any planet could have gone through the gravitational stresses that had to occur if the universe was wiped out (at least the sun) then recreated again.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

WRONG!

If the sun did not exist until the 4th day then how did you have 3 days on earth before the 4th day?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Wrong???? Genesis clearly states God did not create the Sun until the fourth day. Notice it doesn't say God recreated the Sun or that God turned the Sun and the moon back on. We know the moon is only 6,000 years old by the thickness of the dusk on it.

How did God make light and dark before that? Easy He is God and not bound to man's understanding.

[Justaned]

"Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

.

Justaned, God can turn the lights off from upon the Earth any time He wants to, just as easily as you and I turn off our lights in our home any time we choose! God turned the mountains upside down, that's why I have seen fossils, a mile deep in and under SOLID ROCK, in the rock and in the coal, sea shells on mountain tops??? God destroyed the Earth and all life therein, AND GOD TURNED OFF THE SUN MOON AND STARS FROM SHINING UPON THE EARTH!

Read these and weep mate!

" Lucifers Flood 1. The Earth was made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood 2. The Earth was not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22)

Lucifers Flood. There was No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood. There was Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22).

Lucifers Flood. There was No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
Noahs Flood. There remained Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22)."

What you call Lucifers Flood is nothing more than God assembling together all the elements to make the universe. There is no mention of a flood much less a Lucifer's flood.

Where do you see in scripture that God turned on the Sun? Where do you see in scripture that God turned the Sun back on?
It says in scripture God created the Sun without which there would be no photosynthesis which is required to have plants grow.

[bibleman]

All the evidence you offer proves the earth was covered with mixture of land and water and God had to set apart the water from the land. That does not prove there was a earth before this. Only that God brought all the elements of the earth and heavens together at first and then had to set them in order.

Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food.

Also a flood on earth would not wipe out the sun yet genesis tells us God created that on the fourth day. So the whole universe would have to have been recreated. If the universe was recreated the earth would have to have been recreated also.

I don't think this planet or any planet could have gone through the gravitational stresses that had to occur if the universe was wiped out (at least the sun) then recreated again.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

WRONG!

If the sun did not exist until the 4th day then how did you have 3 days on earth before the 4th day?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Wrong???? Genesis clearly states God did not create the Sun until the fourth day.

How did God make light and dark before that? Easy He is God and not bound to man's understanding.

Webster says:
Evening = the period from sunset or the evening meal to bedtime
Morning = the early part of the day : the time of day from sunrise until noon

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Are you saying that God did NOT know what an evening and morning were?

How did days happen on earth BEFORE the fourth day if there was no Sun?

Simple question.

[bibleman]

"Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

.

Justaned, God can turn the lights off from upon the Earth any time He wants to, just as easily as you and I turn off our lights in our home any time we choose! God turned the mountains upside down, that's why I have seen fossils, a mile deep in and under SOLID ROCK, in the rock and in the coal, sea shells on mountain tops??? God destroyed the Earth and all life therein, AND GOD TURNED OFF THE SUN MOON AND STARS FROM SHINING UPON THE EARTH!

Read these and weep mate!

" Lucifers Flood 1. The Earth was made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood 2. The Earth was not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22)

Lucifers Flood. There was No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood. There was Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22).

Lucifers Flood. There was No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
Noahs Flood. There remained Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22)."

What you call Lucifers Flood is nothing more than God assembling together all the elements to make the universe. There is no mention of a flood much less a Lucifer's flood.

Where do you see in scripture that God turned on the Sun? Where do you see in scripture that God turned the Sun back on?
It says in scripture God created the Sun without which there would be no photosynthesis which is required to have plants grow.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "It says in scripture God created the Sun..."

Where in Scripture does it say God created the Sun?

[Justaned]

All the evidence you offer proves the earth was covered with mixture of land and water and God had to set apart the water from the land. That does not prove there was a earth before this. Only that God brought all the elements of the earth and heavens together at first and then had to set them in order.

Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food.

Also a flood on earth would not wipe out the sun yet genesis tells us God created that on the fourth day. So the whole universe would have to have been recreated. If the universe was recreated the earth would have to have been recreated also.

I don't think this planet or any planet could have gone through the gravitational stresses that had to occur if the universe was wiped out (at least the sun) then recreated again.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

WRONG!

If the sun did not exist until the 4th day then how did you have 3 days on earth before the 4th day?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Wrong???? Genesis clearly states God did not create the Sun until the fourth day.

How did God make light and dark before that? Easy He is God and not bound to man's understanding.

Webster says:
Evening = the period from sunset or the evening meal to bedtime
Morning = the early part of the day : the time of day from sunrise until noon

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Are you saying that God did NOT know what an evening and morning were?

How did days happen on earth BEFORE the fourth day if there was no Sun?

Simple question.

How should I know ask God. His word which is true says God did not create the sun until the 4th day. You tell me.

[Justaned]

All the evidence you offer proves the earth was covered with mixture of land and water and God had to set apart the water from the land. That does not prove there was a earth before this. Only that God brought all the elements of the earth and heavens together at first and then had to set them in order.

Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food.

Also a flood on earth would not wipe out the sun yet genesis tells us God created that on the fourth day. So the whole universe would have to have been recreated. If the universe was recreated the earth would have to have been recreated also.

I don't think this planet or any planet could have gone through the gravitational stresses that had to occur if the universe was wiped out (at least the sun) then recreated again.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

WRONG!

If the sun did not exist until the 4th day then how did you have 3 days on earth before the 4th day?

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Wrong???? Genesis clearly states God did not create the Sun until the fourth day.

How did God make light and dark before that? Easy He is God and not bound to man's understanding.

Webster says:
Evening = the period from sunset or the evening meal to bedtime
Morning = the early part of the day : the time of day from sunrise until noon

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Are you saying that God did NOT know what an evening and morning were?

How did days happen on earth BEFORE the fourth day if there was no Sun?

Simple question.

Webster is man's explanation of God's creation. Man can never explain God or how God created creation.

[Justaned]

"Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

.

Justaned, God can turn the lights off from upon the Earth any time He wants to, just as easily as you and I turn off our lights in our home any time we choose! God turned the mountains upside down, that's why I have seen fossils, a mile deep in and under SOLID ROCK, in the rock and in the coal, sea shells on mountain tops??? God destroyed the Earth and all life therein, AND GOD TURNED OFF THE SUN MOON AND STARS FROM SHINING UPON THE EARTH!

Read these and weep mate!

" Lucifers Flood 1. The Earth was made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood 2. The Earth was not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22)

Lucifers Flood. There was No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood. There was Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22).

Lucifers Flood. There was No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
Noahs Flood. There remained Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22)."

What you call Lucifers Flood is nothing more than God assembling together all the elements to make the universe. There is no mention of a flood much less a Lucifer's flood.

Where do you see in scripture that God turned on the Sun? Where do you see in scripture that God turned the Sun back on?
It says in scripture God created the Sun without which there would be no photosynthesis which is required to have plants grow.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "It says in scripture God created the Sun..."

Where in Scripture does it say God created the Sun?

Genesis 1:14-19 (NKJV)
14 Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.
16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.
17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth,
18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

[Justaned]

Would have been very hard to have a preadamite earth without the sun the moon and the stars.
How would the plants photosynthesis? Where would vitamin D which is needed for health come from?

Wonder what the earth circled if there was no sun? Was there even gravitation? Wonder if it was the same gravitational force we have today? How could it be without the Sun the Moon the Stars?

[bibleman]

"Remember for something to live there had to be a source of energy (sun) and that did not exist until the fourth day. Without a sun plants could not photosynthesis light into food."

.

Justaned, God can turn the lights off from upon the Earth any time He wants to, just as easily as you and I turn off our lights in our home any time we choose! God turned the mountains upside down, that's why I have seen fossils, a mile deep in and under SOLID ROCK, in the rock and in the coal, sea shells on mountain tops??? God destroyed the Earth and all life therein, AND GOD TURNED OFF THE SUN MOON AND STARS FROM SHINING UPON THE EARTH!

Read these and weep mate!

" Lucifers Flood 1. The Earth was made totally dark (Gen. 1:2-5 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood 2. The Earth was not made totally dark (Gen. 8:6-22)

Lucifers Flood. There was No light from heaven (Gen. 1:2 ; Jer. 4:23-26).
Noahs Flood. There was Light from heaven (Gen. 8:6-22).

Lucifers Flood. There was No day and night (Gen. 1:2-5).
Noahs Flood. There remained Day and night (Gen. 8:1-22)."

What you call Lucifers Flood is nothing more than God assembling together all the elements to make the universe. There is no mention of a flood much less a Lucifer's flood.

Where do you see in scripture that God turned on the Sun? Where do you see in scripture that God turned the Sun back on?
It says in scripture God created the Sun without which there would be no photosynthesis which is required to have plants grow.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "It says in scripture God created the Sun..."

Where in Scripture does it say God created the Sun?

Genesis 1:14-19 (NKJV)
14 Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.
16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.
17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth,
18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Where is the word create or created?