Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ God will not allow difficulty unless He has a divine purpose

[Justaned]

He conquered both. Now He shares his authority over death with us.

What scripture tells us he shares his authority with us?
You have authority over death? Where in scripture do you find that?

Paul said it was up to him to choose whether he wants to stay or go (to Heaven).

Where did Paul say that?

If God can keep sb alive until s/he gets saved but doesn't do it because He doesn't want to He is not Love.

So you believe everyone that died and wasn't saved was a surprize to an all mightly and all knowing God? would you provide scripture to support that assertion?

That's basically the same heresy John Calvin promoted. The guy had a very twisted thinking being co-responsible for murdering Servet. I don't think I'll ever read anything by Calvin as I would risk being exposed to some real brown stinking and sticky stuff he promoted - do you guys agree?

First of all you aren't qualified to say what Calvin promoted. It is obvious to the most casual observer you have no idea what scripture says, nor do you understand even rudimentary Christian basics, so let us not got on to what Calvin said it is not germain to the discussion. Let talk scripture.

You have said a lost of things now please provide scripture not you opinion not Calvin's opinion but only what scripture say to back up you accusations.

[frad70]

First of all you aren't qualified to say what Calvin promoted. It is obvious to the most casual observer you have no idea what scripture says, nor do you understand even rudimentary Christian basics, so let us not got on to what Calvin said it is not germain to the discussion. Let talk scripture.

If I have no idea what Scripture says why do you want me to quote it? If your very strong opinion is true I would misquote, wouldn't I?

And what in your opinion would qualify me to talk about Calvin's writings?

[Rocky]

Hi Ed, I have a question for you. why was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden? Now there is a reason for this question, and in a sense it does go with this thread, so bare with me.

[frad70]

Philippians 1:21-22 NKJV

For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.

It doesn't say 'what God shall choose' but what I (i.e. Paul) shall choose.

[Justaned]

Hi Ed, I have a question for you. why was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the Garden? Now there is a reason for this question, and in a sense it does go with this thread, so bare with me.

I have never figured that one out.
When parents have children they child proof the house. Why God didn't child proof the garden in this live I don't know, but I expect that when I see perfect I will understand it perfectly.

[branham1965]

hey brothers
my favorite John Calvin story.

Michael Servetus disagreed with him so John Calvin pulled a Walter White on him.

he burned him alive at the stake.he had him murdered for not being a Trinitarian.
some say he was a follower of Bishop Arius.

ive heard a few say he was a Sabellian.i doubt this.i think he was an Arian.

just like the Captain once told cool hand Luke

Calvin told him before he lit the fire....

"its for your own good."

[Justaned]

Philippians 1:21-22 NKJV

For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.

It doesn't say 'what God shall choose' but what I (i.e. Paul) shall choose.

Do you really believe that is what Paul saying? Or was he saying he would rather be dead and in heaven than here on earth but since Jesus gave him a task he had not yet completed he realized he needed to put away his desires and get back to work

The only way a person can end their life prematurely is suicide do you really think Paul was advocating suicide in scripture?

[Justaned]

First of all you aren't qualified to say what Calvin promoted. It is obvious to the most casual observer you have no idea what scripture says, nor do you understand even rudimentary Christian basics, so let us not got on to what Calvin said it is not germain to the discussion. Let talk scripture.

If I have no idea what Scripture says why do you want me to quote it? If your very strong opinion is true I would misquote, wouldn't I?

And what in your opinion would qualify me to talk about Calvin's writings?

Okay you played the Calvin card and it didn't work now forget it and answer the questions that I asked.
Quote the scripture we share authority with Christ
Quote the scripture that says we have power over life and death
Quote the scripture that says an almighty all knowing God is surprized when someone dies.

[frad70]

Philippians 1:21-22 NKJV

For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.

It doesn't say 'what God shall choose' but what I (i.e. Paul) shall choose.

Do you really believe that is what Paul saying?

Yes, I do.

[Justaned]

Philippians 1:21-22 NKJV

For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I cannot tell.

It doesn't say 'what God shall choose' but what I (i.e. Paul) shall choose.

Do you really believe that is what Paul saying?

Yes, I do.

You believe Paul was talking about suicide?