Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ God will not allow difficulty unless He has a divine purpose

[bibleman]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

[Justaned]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

[bibleman]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

So then I should go out and get drunk today?

And you would have no right to judge me on that, since God may have a PURPOSE in me getting drunk.

That is about as stupid thinking as I have heard in a long time.

[Justaned]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

So then I should go out and get drunk today?

And you would have no right to judge me on that, since God may have a PURPOSE in me getting drunk.

That is about as stupid thinking as I have heard in a long time.

Never said that and no you should not go out and get drunk. A drunkard is in real danger of hell's fire.

I have no right to judge you, scripture tells us not to judge another man's slave, to his own master he will stand or he will fall.

I think it is stupid thinking that God can't take any situation and turn it around to make it work for our good. You try to limit God to your logic, your capabilities and your wisdom.

[bibleman]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

So then I should go out and get drunk today?

And you would have no right to judge me on that, since God may have a PURPOSE in me getting drunk.

That is about as stupid thinking as I have heard in a long time.

Never said that and no you should not go out and get drunk. A drunkard is in real danger of hell's fire.

I have no right to judge you, scripture tells us not to judge another man's slave, to his own master he will stand or he will fall.

I think it is stupid thinking that God can't take any situation and turn it around to make it work for our good. You try to limit God to your logic, your capabilities and your wisdom.

Hi ed,

Me limit God? Not at all.

It was God who said: "Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

So I can say without reservation based on the Word of God that: GOD WOULD NEVER "WILL" SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND GET DRUNK FOR HIS PURPOSE!

[Justaned]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

So then I should go out and get drunk today?

And you would have no right to judge me on that, since God may have a PURPOSE in me getting drunk.

That is about as stupid thinking as I have heard in a long time.

Never said that and no you should not go out and get drunk. A drunkard is in real danger of hell's fire.

I have no right to judge you, scripture tells us not to judge another man's slave, to his own master he will stand or he will fall.

I think it is stupid thinking that God can't take any situation and turn it around to make it work for our good. You try to limit God to your logic, your capabilities and your wisdom.

Hi ed,

Me limit God? Not at all.

It was God who said: "Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

So I can say without reservation based on the Word of God that: GOD WOULD NEVER "WILL" SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND GET DRUNK FOR HIS PURPOSE!

I also never said God willed anyone to get drunk. I said the fact that someone went out and got drunk was no surpise to God and that God could use this to His purpose.

[bibleman]

This was Joel's facebook post for today:

Joel Osteen Ministries
Nothing can happen without God's permission and God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it. If you will keep your peace, you'll pass the test, and God will bring you out better than you were before.

Now while I love Joel and usually am inspired every Sunday when I listen to him... I have a problem with the quote: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

If a person gets drunk and goes to jail, that is a difficulty! But God did NOT have a purpose of you getting drunk and going to jail. God had already commanded you NOT to get drunk.

Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Agree, Disagree, Comment!

I say we can't make that call. God may have a purpose, or the act may be of our own will. In any case it is no surprise to God and God will make it work to our Good.

This is where we have to trust in God. If we think things just happen then we have to believe in kismet or chance. However if we believe in God he have to believe God when He said He would make all things work to our good.

So then I should go out and get drunk today?

And you would have no right to judge me on that, since God may have a PURPOSE in me getting drunk.

That is about as stupid thinking as I have heard in a long time.

Never said that and no you should not go out and get drunk. A drunkard is in real danger of hell's fire.

I have no right to judge you, scripture tells us not to judge another man's slave, to his own master he will stand or he will fall.

I think it is stupid thinking that God can't take any situation and turn it around to make it work for our good. You try to limit God to your logic, your capabilities and your wisdom.

Hi ed,

Me limit God? Not at all.

It was God who said: "Ephesians 5:18 - And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"

So I can say without reservation based on the Word of God that: GOD WOULD NEVER "WILL" SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND GET DRUNK FOR HIS PURPOSE!

I also never said God willed anyone to get drunk. I said the fact that someone went out and got drunk was no surpise to God and that God could use this to His purpose.

What purpose would God have in wanting someone to get drunk when HE told us NOT to get drunk in HIS Word.

That is a slap in the face to the integrity of God's Word!

[Justaned]

[What purpose would God have in wanting someone to get drunk when HE told us NOT to get drunk in HIS Word.

That is a slap in the face to the integrity of God's Word!

Never said God wanted anyone to get drunk. I said the fact that someone got drunk would not surprise God and God would be able to use it for His purpose.

What purpose? Almost any from saving the man to using him as a bad example to someone else.

[bibleman]

[What purpose would God have in wanting someone to get drunk when HE told us NOT to get drunk in HIS Word.

That is a slap in the face to the integrity of God's Word!

Never said God wanted anyone to get drunk. I said the fact that someone got drunk would not surprise God and God would be able to use it for His purpose.

What purpose? Almost any from saving the man to using him as a bad example to someone else.

The quote you agreed to was: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

So then the man can't get drunk UNLESS God has a purpose in him getting drunk.

Stupidity gone to seed!

[Justaned]

[What purpose would God have in wanting someone to get drunk when HE told us NOT to get drunk in HIS Word.

That is a slap in the face to the integrity of God's Word!

Never said God wanted anyone to get drunk. I said the fact that someone got drunk would not surprise God and God would be able to use it for His purpose.

What purpose? Almost any from saving the man to using him as a bad example to someone else.

The quote you agreed to was: "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

So then the man can't get drunk UNLESS God has a purpose in him getting drunk.

Stupidity gone to seed!

I agree you display stupidity gone to seed
I never said anything about God willing someone to get drunk

You asked if I agreed to this statement. "God will not allow a difficulty unless He has a divine purpose for it."

I said I think God has a divine purpose in all things. Good things and bad things and even stupid things that we as humans do.

That does not say God wanted, willed to otherwise encouraged us to do them.
But it does display the might of God by saying God can then take those stupid things and use them for our good if we love God and are called to His purpose.