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[macca]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

[branham1965]

are you claiming that we today have the POWER OF THE 12 APOSTLES OR THE 70?????

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

[Justaned]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

[bibleman]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

Hi Ed,

Maybe I missed it but.... I never read where you answered this question that Macca asked you.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

What promises can we as believers lay hold to?

[Justaned]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

Hi Ed,

Maybe I missed it but.... I never read where you answered this question that Macca asked you.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

What promises can we as believers lay hold to?

All that weren't made to specific people, at a specific time, and don't have a condition unless we meet that condition.

Again it is called RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD!

[bibleman]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

Hi Ed,

Maybe I missed it but.... I never read where you answered this question that Macca asked you.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

What promises can we as believers lay hold to?

All that weren't made to specific people, at a specific time, and don't have a condition unless we meet that condition.

Again it is called RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD!

Got any specific examples?

[branham1965]

IT SEEMS IT TOOK THE APOSTLES PETER AND JOHN TO LAY HANDS ON FOLKS FOR THE HOLY GHOST TO BE GIVEN IN ACTS 8.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

Hi Ed,

Maybe I missed it but.... I never read where you answered this question that Macca asked you.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

What promises can we as believers lay hold to?

All that weren't made to specific people, at a specific time, and don't have a condition unless we meet that condition.

Again it is called RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD!

Got any specific examples?

[Justaned]

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

If what Jesus said to the 70 is useless to us, does that make the book of Ephesians redundant for us as well?

macca

Macca
When you make promises do you ever condition them? Do you ever make them to specific people? Do they ever involve specific timing? Do you ever make unconditional promises?

The answer to these questions are of course we all do that.

So why not God?

When we see a promise in scripture we just can't claim it. God promised Solomon wisdom yet we all don't have the wisdom of Solomon. God promised the kingdom of Israel to David, yet we all aren't kings of Israel.

God promised the children of Israel the promised land, yet we all don't own apart of Israel.

When we see a promise or read anything in scripture God has carefully noted what was spoken to David, Solomon, to the Children of Israel, to the disciples, to the Apostles, to Paul, and to us.

God has made unconditional promises, conditional promise, specific promises to specific people at a specific time.

We are charged with determining what kind of promise it is before we claim it.

That is call rightly dividing the word.

If we don't rightly divide the Word we end up with crazy theology. Theology that combines the promises to the Children of Israel, with promises made to David, to curses made to Balaam, to promises made the seventy and promises that are ours.

Ask yourself why is we never have problems understanding the curse made to Korah did not pertain to us? But when we see Jesus directly talking and addressing the seventy we say, "oh Jesus made that promise to us"?

We are charged with rightly dividing the word, to show ourselves approved. That is what we would do if we are really in Christ.

Unfortunately many never bother to read the Bible themselves, instead they listen to what others say. If it sounds good to them they accept it and if doesn't sound right or is something they don't want to hear they reject it.

That is wrong!!!!!!

Hi Ed,

Maybe I missed it but.... I never read where you answered this question that Macca asked you.

Ed! What part of the bible can we (we reading this forum) claim as ours?

What promises can we as believers lay hold to?

All that weren't made to specific people, at a specific time, and don't have a condition unless we meet that condition.

Again it is called RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD!

Got any specific examples?

Come on Bibleman you supposedly have finished seminary and surely you have read the word at least once. You can do it.
I'll get you started
Turn to John 3:16 (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ( I even used the KJV so you would not get too mixed up )

Now this is a conditional promise made to whosoever. That whosoever is anyone that meets the next condition, that condition is believing in God's only begotten Son. See it is easy I'm sure with time, patience and some effort on your part you can take it from here.

[bibleman]

yes i agree with REVED.

im just sticking up for my friend.he is a senior citizen.if folks here or anywhere were ganging upon you Reverend id do the same thing.i would.

Billy,

Could you please answer my question?

Do you agree with REVED that the Believer does NOT have power over the devil?

OK Billy,

That is fine. Since you agree with Ed, I will put you two together in your beliefs or shall we say: those who disagree with Dake and doubt that the Bible, the blood of Jesus, and the power of the Holy Ghost to give VICTORY over the devil.

[Justaned]

yes i agree with REVED.

im just sticking up for my friend.he is a senior citizen.if folks here or anywhere were ganging upon you Reverend id do the same thing.i would.

Billy,

Could you please answer my question?

Do you agree with REVED that the Believer does NOT have power over the devil?

OK Billy,

That is fine. Since you agree with Ed, I will put you two together in your beliefs or shall we say: those who disagree with Dake and doubt that the Bible, the blood of Jesus, and the power of the Holy Ghost to give VICTORY over the devil.

Bibleman
That is pot stirring and we all know it. We are called to be peacemakers not pot stirrers.