Dake Bible Discussion BoardFinis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

General Discussion Forum devoted to the study of God's Word in Honor of Finis J. Dake.
Post Reply
User avatar
Justaned
Little Children, Let No Man Deceive You: He that Doeth Righteousness is Righteous, Even as He is Righteous
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by Justaned »

victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:I don't need some author trying to sell a book to tell me Kenyon is good or bad.
I can read what Kenyon said and if I understand metaphysics I can easily decide for myself if what he is teaching is metaphysical or not. And it is!

I don't need you or any one else to tell me or anyone else it is not. Nor do I need McConnell or Hanegraaff to tell me it is.

I know what metaphysics is and I know what Kenyon taught. Kenyon taught the power of the spoken word with the idea things do not become reality until we speak them. That is the whole premise of Word of Faith. Faith is not a reality until we speak our faith then it become a reality. Wordsmith all you want that is what Kenyon taught and that is the idea behind the teaching of the WoF and it even explain how they came up with the name Word of Faith.

Now you can deny that all you want but it doesn't change one word of Kenyon's teaching and all one has to do is pick up one of his books and read it for themselves.
I don't have to deny anything Ed. All that I need to do is let Kenyon speak for himself. You are making the accusation so you should provide the proof. Of course you don't have any so I will never see you prove your case. Kenyon has stated in his writings that, "God is. Satan is. Sin is. But God has dealt with the sin problem in His Son." (Kenyon, Two Kinds of Righteousness, p. 9).

The Metaphysicians deny what Kenyon affirms.

Do you even know what Metaphysics is? I seriously doubt it.


victoryword
Knock and It Shall Be Opened Unto You
Posts: 541
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:28 am
Contact:

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by victoryword »

Justaned wrote:Do you even know what Metaphysics is? I seriously doubt it.
Right backatcha +pieface


User avatar
Justaned
Little Children, Let No Man Deceive You: He that Doeth Righteousness is Righteous, Even as He is Righteous
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by Justaned »

victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:Do you even know what Metaphysics is? I seriously doubt it.
Right backatcha +pieface
Well I'm waiting to hear you explain it.


victoryword
Knock and It Shall Be Opened Unto You
Posts: 541
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:28 am
Contact:

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by victoryword »

Justaned wrote:
victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:Do you even know what Metaphysics is? I seriously doubt it.
Right backatcha +pieface
Well I'm waiting to hear you explain it.
You first. +hammer


User avatar
Justaned
Little Children, Let No Man Deceive You: He that Doeth Righteousness is Righteous, Even as He is Righteous
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by Justaned »

victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:
victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:Do you even know what Metaphysics is? I seriously doubt it.
Right backatcha +pieface
Well I'm waiting to hear you explain it.
You first. +hammer

Oh no. I brought it up and you said I didn't know what I was talking about so prove to the world you know enough to make that call. Tell us everything you know about Metaphysics and don't worry I'm right here to help you should you stumble. Admit it you have no idea in the world what I'm talking about you just don't want to admit that or admit Kenyon was a huckster.


victoryword
Knock and It Shall Be Opened Unto You
Posts: 541
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:28 am
Contact:

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by victoryword »

So I guess you can't explain what Metaphysics are nor can you prove that Kenyon was involved in them. You lose.

+pieface


User avatar
Justaned
Little Children, Let No Man Deceive You: He that Doeth Righteousness is Righteous, Even as He is Righteous
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by Justaned »

victoryword wrote:So I guess you can't explain what Metaphysics are nor can you prove that Kenyon was involved in them. You lose.

+pieface
Victorywood
I already explained the metaphysical aspect of Kenyon's teaching was to cover for you lack of knowledge of what it was all you had to do was go back and copy what I said. But no your to quick for that.
I removed a comment that wasn't Christlike and I repent for saying it.
Last edited by Justaned on Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.


victoryword
Knock and It Shall Be Opened Unto You
Posts: 541
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:28 am
Contact:

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by victoryword »

Justaned wrote: Victorywood
I already explained the metaphysical aspect of Kenyon's teaching was to cover for you lack of knowledge of what it was all you had to do was go back and copy what I said. But no your to quick for that.
Having a battle of wits with you is like having a gunfight with an unarmed man.
Justpained

The only thing you "explained" was what you say was Kenyon's metaphysics. You provided no proof. So I guess you can't explain what Metaphysics are nor can you prove that Kenyon was involved in them. You lose.

+pieface


User avatar
Justaned
Little Children, Let No Man Deceive You: He that Doeth Righteousness is Righteous, Even as He is Righteous
Posts: 1938
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by Justaned »

victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote: Victorywood
I already explained the metaphysical aspect of Kenyon's teaching was to cover for you lack of knowledge of what it was all you had to do was go back and copy what I said. But no your to quick for that.
.
Justpained

The only thing you "explained" was what you say was Kenyon's metaphysics. You provided no proof. So I guess you can't explain what Metaphysics are nor can you prove that Kenyon was involved in them. You lose.

+pieface
Actually I did. One of the offending (to me) aspects of metaphysics is the teaching that things do not exist until they are spoken into reality. That is a definition and I never mentioned Kenyon. You give the appearance that all you know about Kenyon and Metaphysics is that someone said he wasn't a metaphysics teacher. You don't understand the term but you believe what the author said without considering he was writing a book to make a buck.
Removed comment I wasn't being Christlike. I repent.


victoryword
Knock and It Shall Be Opened Unto You
Posts: 541
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:28 am
Contact:

Re: Finis Dake's View of Spirtual Warfare

Post by victoryword »

That is not true. For example, this quote on faith has no metaphysical or heretical elements whatsoever in it:
  • “Believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them” (Mark 11:24). This sounds strange, but it is true. It is according to the philosophy of faith. Say, by realizing faith, “this promise is mine,” and straight away it is yours. It is by faith that we receive promises and not by sight and sense.


Post Reply