Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Romans 12:2

[raymond5555]

Can I get some views on Romans 12:2? On the good,acceptable and perfect will of God?Are they different?Leon bible please respond also thank you

[Hill Top]

Can I get some views on Romans 12:2?
On the good, acceptable and perfect will of God?
Are they different? Leon bible please respond also thank you

Are what different?
Good...acceptable...perfect?
Different from each other?

[raymond5555]

yes they are different,i read one on dr.Finis Dakes notes on it,just getting others thoughts on the message board.

[Grandfather]

Can I get some views on Romans 12:2?
On the good, acceptable and perfect will of God?
Are they different? Leon bible please respond also thank you

Are what different?
Good...acceptable...perfect?
Different from each other?

Scholars are divided on this. Some say there are three different wills.
Others indicate this is a figure of speech called a triad. It is the repeating the same idea three times, sometimes using the same word as in holy, holy, holy. Or as in this case three words that build on each other in a cascading effect.
Others point to the language and say these are not three independent words, but words joined to each other. Several English versions show it this way... the good AND acceptable AND perfect. If one removes the conjunction "AND" you also reduce the meaning of the expression.

[raymond5555]

I understand that bible scholars are split on this verse about the good,and acceptable and perfect will of God.But if Leon Bible could respond on this it will be much appreciated.

[bibleman]

I understand that bible scholars are split on this verse about the good,and acceptable and perfect will of God.But if Leon Bible could respond on this it will be much appreciated.

What split views are you reading on "the good,and acceptable and perfect will of God?"

How about stating them here... then we could give you an answer that would be sure to address your question.

[Grandfather]

I understand that bible scholars are split on this verse about the good,and acceptable and perfect will of God.But if Leon Bible could respond on this it will be much appreciated.

What split views are you reading on "the good,and acceptable and perfect will of God?"

How about stating them here... then we could give you an answer that would be sure to address your question.

I know you did not address the question to me, but I was the one that first broached the idea of the varied opinions.

The two positions (that I am aware of) can be (overly simplistically) summed up as:

1) These are three different degrees of Gods will. Similar to a "good - better - best" analogy

2) Pauls used a literary form to repeat the same concept three times. It was a form often used in the literature of that time to emphasis the nature of what was being described. Much like we read the angels cry "Holy, holy, holy"

[raymond5555]

Leon,to answer you,grandfather has the two different views bible scholars teach,I'm sure you read his last post after yours.Three different wills ,good,and acceptable ,and perfect will of God.One view,and the other view is they ,good and acceptable and perfect will of God are exactly the same.My view is good and acceptabme and perfect will of God are different.I'LL explain,in Mark 4:20,And these are they which are down on good ground;such as heat the word,and receive it,and bring forth fruit,some thirtyfold,some sixty,and some an hundred.Three three wills Paul talks about,good and acceptable and perfect will of God,are the 30,60,100 fold fruit.

[raymond5555]

sown on

[raymond5555]

sown on good ground