Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Does this sound like once saved always saved to you?

[bibleman]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

[Justaned]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

I said true Christians can't intentionally commit adultery. So called Christians certainly can. Perhaps those are the ones you are most familiar with.

[bibleman]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

I said true Christians can't intentionally commit adultery. So called Christians certainly can. Perhaps those are the ones you are most familiar with.

OK then you and Creflo believe the same thing you both believe that a True Christian can not be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery.

[Justaned]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

I said true Christians can't intentionally commit adultery. So called Christians certainly can. Perhaps those are the ones you are most familiar with.

OK then you and Creflo believe the same thing you both believe that a True Christian can not be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery.

Never said that. Your pants are on fire.

[bibleman]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

I said true Christians can't intentionally commit adultery. So called Christians certainly can. Perhaps those are the ones you are most familiar with.

OK then you and Creflo believe the same thing you both believe that a True Christian can not be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery.

Never said that. Your pants are on fire.

OK then answer a question yes or no....

Can a True Christian be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery?

[Justaned]

If you listen at 1:47 you will hear Creflo say that adultery will not cause the Holy Ghost to leave you!

Oh LORD help us! He is talking just like Ed.

[video][/video]

I never once suggested anyone could commit adultery without it being sin to God and costing them their salvation. So why are you saying I did?

Because you said Christians could not intentionally commit adultery!

I said true Christians can't intentionally commit adultery. So called Christians certainly can. Perhaps those are the ones you are most familiar with.

OK then you and Creflo believe the same thing you both believe that a True Christian can not be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery.

Never said that. Your pants are on fire.

OK then answer a question yes or no....

Can a True Christian be judge guilty by God on the sin of adultery?

If they committed adultery yes, but I would question if they were ever a true christian. I don't think a true christian would commit adultery, do you?

[bibleman]

If they committed adultery yes, but I would question if they were ever a true christian. I don't think a true christian would commit adultery, do you?

Yes many people have been Christians and then backslid and committed all kinds of sins including adultery.

[Justaned]

If they committed adultery yes, but I would question if they were ever a true christian. I don't think a true christian would commit adultery, do you?

Yes many people have been Christians and then backslid and committed all kinds of sins including adultery.

And how do you know they were Christians? How if Jesus was Lord of their life did they leave Christ?

I thought the only one that knew for sure the status on ones life was God. Since only he can see the heart.

Perhaps you will tell us your secret to determining who is and who isn't saved.

Also since many do this according to you then you might be tempted what keeps you from doing it? Is it your strength to resist? Is it your super faith? Or is it Jesus Christ within you? Be careful how you answer God said He will not share His glory.

[bibleman]

If they committed adultery yes, but I would question if they were ever a true christian. I don't think a true christian would commit adultery, do you?

Yes many people have been Christians and then backslid and committed all kinds of sins including adultery.

And how do you know they were Christians? How if Jesus was Lord of their life did they leave Christ?

I thought the only one that knew for sure the status on ones life was God. Since only he can see the heart.

Perhaps you will tell us your secret to determining who is and who isn't saved.

Also since many do this according to you then you might be tempted what keeps you from doing it? Is it your strength to resist? Is it your super faith? Or is it Jesus Christ within you? Be careful how you answer God said He will not share His glory.

Hi Ed,

OK,.. lets see here.

How do you know they are NOT Christians?

They left Christ the same way they came in - by faith and obedience to the Gospel.

You can tell who is and who is not saved by their fruit as Jesus said.

The reason I don't do this is by choice. God gave me a free will to choose the good and reject the wrong. AND by His power and the power of the WORD to build me up I stay pure.

[frad70]

Does this sound like once saved always saved to you?

You have not received the spirit of bondage to the Law. You are led by the Spirit of God now.
The Spirit of God is now bearing witness with your spirit, assuring you that you are absolutely His child (Romans 8:16).
Don’t let your behavior affect how you view yourself.
Your identity in Christ is unaltered by your behavior. Your recreated spirit does not change when you miss the mark.
http://www.creflodollarministries.org/B ... px?id=1337

Sounds much like EW Kenyon's teachings to me.