So now I am in danger of going to hell and perverting Gods word lol. Ed are we not allowed to joke around. Yes Jesus came not to condemn the world but to save it. But he absolutely refuted and condemned the religious crowded and was even harsh to them. He came for the sinner not for the religious. Lets look at Jesus doing some owning:Justaned wrote:Rocky wrote:The own thing was a joke Ed. sheesh touchy touchy lol. I am sorry I was joking. But however, yes Dake could still own you because we have his writings. And yes Jesus owned, Look at the exchange between him and the Pharisees. He called them Vipers and refuted them at every turn, Jesus was very good at owning the religious crowd. A Freudian slip lol, its called a joke. Why are you avoiding examples were Dake is wrong or off? I know, you will getJustaned wrote: Rocky
You need a course in reading. I never said Dake taught heresy. I said he missed it on some things. You wanted to know what they were so I said go do a search on Dake heresies you will find a list you can discuss if that is what you want to do. I didn't say they were my list of objections I just said if you wanted some to discuss there were lists. Am I afraid Dake will own me? No not hardly since he is dead and can't speak for himself. However I do believe that no matter what I did say you and others would twist it and try to "own me" since that appears to be your objective.
I think you made a Freudian slip there saying what you did. It is apparent from your response you have no care for discussion of God's word you only objective is to "own" people. Can I caution without stirring your wrath? I think you need to rethink your attitude I never saw a place where it was Jesus goal to own people. Just the opposite Jesus seemed to want to help, teach, encourage, edify and exhort people.
You say joke I say what is in the heart comes out the mouth. If you think Jesus owned the pharisees then I think you missed His purpose. Scripture clearly says Jesus did not come into this world to condemn this world but to lead this world to salvation. Hard to do that when you are "OWNING" people wouldn't you say. Oh yes some of those "owned" Pharisees did come to Jesus as we see scripture.
Sense of humor? Yeah I have sense of humor when dealing with things less serious than the eternal destination of man and the perversion of the Word of God.
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. Owned
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: Owned
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity now that a great own right there lol
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Owned!!!!!!
No if you want I could show you in the writings of Paul, Peter,John, and james doing some spectacular owning if you would like. In slang owning when it comes to discussion just simply means to refute someone's argument to the point were they are proving wrong. Jesus did this, as well as the apsostles. If they were no owning then we would not have any doctrine. No I do not try to own non believers matter of fact I dont even debate non believers, that would be unbiblical to do.
Edited: Because Ed may get owned
