Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ CREFLO no need to confess sin

[branham1965]

i once heard him say that the truth was somewhere in the middle .....between osas and the other extreme...on a sit down program he had.

i think he is aces.a good man.
a buddy of mine ...his father has worked for all kinds of Preachers .from Leroy Jenkins to WV Grant ....to???
he said the very best was Dad Hagin and he liked Brother Copeland as well.

[bibleman]

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

[video][/video]

Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

This very bad theology when he says: (38:00)

It does not matter what you do or where you go. I just want you to know as of today God is going with you.
If you go to the strip club God is going with you.
If you look at porno all night he is right there sitting with you.
If you commit adultery he is right there with you.

This very bad theology when he says: (46:00)

No matter what happens Christ never leaves us, we are always in fellowship with him.
Even when we are faithless our God remains faithful.

Can you guys see any Biblical reason to agree with this?

[branham1965]

who am i to get on Creflo or Joseph.

they are great men in the Lord.

[branham1965]

its PREACHER TALK.

i know of a great and mighty man of Valor from Iberia, Missouri who men revered and devils feared . He would rebuke him to his face.and then tell all 20,0000 people the truth.and they would listen.

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

[video][/video]

Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

This very bad theology when he says: (38:00)

It does not matter what you do or where you go. I just want you to know as of today God is going with you.
If you go to the strip club God is going with you.
If you look at porno all night he is right there sitting with you.
If you commit adultery he is right there with you.

This very bad theology when he says: (46:00)

No matter what happens Christ never leaves us, we are always in fellowship with him.
Even when we are faithless our God remains faithful.

Can you guys see any Biblical reason to agree with this?

[Justaned]

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

[video][/video]

Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

This very bad theology when he says: (38:00)

It does not matter what you do or where you go. I just want you to know as of today God is going with you.
If you go to the strip club God is going with you.
If you look at porno all night he is right there sitting with you.
If you commit adultery he is right there with you.

This very bad theology when he says: (46:00)

No matter what happens Christ never leaves us, we are always in fellowship with him.
Even when we are faithless our God remains faithful.

Can you guys see any Biblical reason to agree with this?

Bibleman
What do you disagree with? That God goes with a person even when they sin? Do you not think God sees what is going on in the strip clubs and by whom?
Do you think God doesn't see when a man and woman commit adultery?

I didn't listen to the tapes but unless Creflo is saying God winks at or is okay with sin I don't see what your problem is.

[branham1965]

its like the attitude is if we cant beat them join them.we cant live right so assimilate.

its very painful to cut off flesh.

a woman was squallerin and hollerin at the altar.Dad Hagin ran over to her.oh God take it take it please Lord take it

Sister what is it what do want him to take??? old snuff.
Why Sister he cant take that He dont do snuff....YOU have to deal with that.thats your flesh.you have to cut it off.

she stopped looked at him and said why i never could quit good old snuff and walked off.

[bibleman]

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

[video][/video]

Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

This very bad theology when he says: (38:00)

It does not matter what you do or where you go. I just want you to know as of today God is going with you.
If you go to the strip club God is going with you.
If you look at porno all night he is right there sitting with you.
If you commit adultery he is right there with you.

This very bad theology when he says: (46:00)

No matter what happens Christ never leaves us, we are always in fellowship with him.
Even when we are faithless our God remains faithful.

Can you guys see any Biblical reason to agree with this?

Bibleman
What do you disagree with? That God goes with a person even when they sin? Do you not think God sees what is going on in the strip clubs and by whom?
Do you think God doesn't see when a man and woman commit adultery?

I didn't listen to the tapes but unless Creflo is saying God winks at or is okay with sin I don't see what your problem is.

Hi Ed,

If you have not listened to the video then it is hard to have a conversation about it... wouldn't you agree?

[Justaned]

Here is the thing I have problems with.
When I was young 10-13 or so I said the sinner prayer and at the time I said it I meant it. But no long after I have gotten that out of my system. I was still going to church but.... Then when I got to be 16-18 or somewhere around there I figured I knew more about God, religion and life than God did, so I stopped going to church and lived more or less like I wanted.

However I would never use God name in vain. I would use every foul word but never God's name. In college us "geniuses" would sit around and philosophize live and religion and that. I always was the one defending Christianity even when I didn't want to. I would do most sins without second thought but later I was usually convicted of them and told God I was sorry but at the time had no intention of stopping.

But there was still something about me, my bartender once told me that I would be driving church buses one day and the whole bar laughed.

This lifestyle stayed with me until I was about 30 when at that point in time I got serious with the Lord. When I got ordained I went back to that bar and all my old friends were there. Should have heard them when I turned down a drink and told them I was a Pastor.

Later I was discussing OSAS with a Baptist who was OSAS he told a very similar story and he contributed his refusal to entere into some sins, being convicted of sins and defending Christianity to being OSAS. He had much horrific stories than I since he had been in Vietnam where human life was worth less than a nickel and you could buy women to be your sex slave for a buck or two.

Point is we had similar stories and similar experiences and we both started at about the same place and ended at the same place. I always figured mine was because of what my parents instilled in me but .... and he contributed his journey to OSAS.

I have thought of him many times through the years and yes I do wonder.

[Justaned]

Hi Ed,

If you have not listened to the video then it is hard to have a conversation about it... wouldn't you agree?

Bibleman
I agree.
Having listened to the man in the past I know I don't have the stomach to listen to him now. His theology that I heard before was birthed in hell and was sent to earth to deceive man from serving God.

So I guess I will have to refrain from commenting about what this man says.

[branham1965]

no REVED i want to hear your comments.

Hi Ed,

If you have not listened to the video then it is hard to have a conversation about it... wouldn't you agree?

Bibleman
I agree.
Having listened to the man in the past I know I don't have the stomach to listen to him now. His theology that I heard before was birthed in hell and was sent to earth to deceive man from serving God.

So I guess I will have to refrain from commenting about what this man says.