Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ CREFLO no need to confess sin

[bibleman]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

[Justaned]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

Bibleman
Why do keep slandering me? I never said if you get saved there is no way out. Now if you want to slander me it is your board and you can do what you want but I call God to bear witness to what you are saying. I never once suggested, said or otherwise implied that once you were saved that you could not lose your salvation. As God is my Witness.

[bibleman]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

Bibleman
Why do keep slandering me? I never said if you get saved there is no way out. Now if you want to slander me it is your board and you can do what you want but I call God to bear witness to what you are saying. I never once suggested, said or otherwise implied that once you were saved that you could not lose your salvation. As God is my Witness.

Hi Ed,

So you agree then that if a Christian kills someone they will go to Hell for violating God's law?

[Justaned]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

Bibleman
Why do keep slandering me? I never said if you get saved there is no way out. Now if you want to slander me it is your board and you can do what you want but I call God to bear witness to what you are saying. I never once suggested, said or otherwise implied that once you were saved that you could not lose your salvation. As God is my Witness.

Hi Ed,

So you agree then that if a Christian kills someone they will go to Hell for violating God's law?

Yes if a so called Christian killed someone they would go to hell. I don't think a true Christian would kill someone. Do you? Do you think the saints sitting in your church are all potential murderers?

[bibleman]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

Bibleman
Why do keep slandering me? I never said if you get saved there is no way out. Now if you want to slander me it is your board and you can do what you want but I call God to bear witness to what you are saying. I never once suggested, said or otherwise implied that once you were saved that you could not lose your salvation. As God is my Witness.

Hi Ed,

So you agree then that if a Christian kills someone they will go to Hell for violating God's law?

Yes if a so called Christian killed someone they would go to hell. I don't think a true Christian would kill someone. Do you? Do you think the saints sitting in your church are all potential murderers?

YES, Judas was saved and yet he backslid and went to Hell.

None of us are to high and mighty that we are incapable on falling and sinning away our salvation.

[Justaned]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

Bibleman
Why do keep slandering me? I never said if you get saved there is no way out. Now if you want to slander me it is your board and you can do what you want but I call God to bear witness to what you are saying. I never once suggested, said or otherwise implied that once you were saved that you could not lose your salvation. As God is my Witness.

Hi Ed,

So you agree then that if a Christian kills someone they will go to Hell for violating God's law?

Yes if a so called Christian killed someone they would go to hell. I don't think a true Christian would kill someone. Do you? Do you think the saints sitting in your church are all potential murderers?

YES, Judas was saved and yet he backslid and went to Hell.

None of us are to high and mighty that we are incapable on falling and sinning away our salvation.

You can not use Judas because we don't know whether he had entered apostasy long before he betrayed Jesus or not.
The answer is on Judas is we simply don't know. I stand by my opinion that truly saved Christian can not murder someone. However I can believe a truly saved Christian for whatever reason entered into apostasy and then killed someone.
I guess I have a higher opinion of truly saved Christians than you do. I will admit I haven't met a lot of them though

[macca]

I heard Kenneth Copland answer a question on this subject while he was in Australia in the 80s.
His answer was very much like Ed's.

macca

[macca]

Now that brought back some good memories.

[Watchman2013]

Good Morning, Gentlemen,

Are you not forgetting "war?" Many Christians have fought in wars, and killed in self defense, or in the defense of others... The Scriptures don't say, "Thou shalt not kill," in the original Hebrew, but, "Thou shalt not commit murder."

Do you know the difference? Between "kill" and "murder?"

Grist for the mill, Gentleman...

Maranatha

Watchman2013

[victoryword]

I haven't watched any of the videos yet but I would be surprised that Pastor Dollar is going in this direction after having given some very dramatic teachings on the subject of hell.

I agree with you Pastor,

Listen to the video and you will hear him say things that are heart breaking to hear.

He is very similar to Ed in his teaching, that is if you ever get saved then that is it - no way out, you are own you way to Heaven sinful or not.

Listen to about 2 or 3 minutes at each of the three places I indicated and you will hear some of the worst of it. However to be fair to Creflo you should listen to it all in context. However I know you time is limited.

God bless you brother.

I'm not that busy.

Any I watched the videos late last night (had a lot of trouble getting the vidoes to work on my laptop so finally decided to use an iPad). Pastor Dollar is definitely teaching OSAS. Makes me wonder what his mentor, Borther Copeland thinks about this. I was told that Copeland once remarked, "If you believe in OSAS you'd better hope that you're right".