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Re: Joe Prince teaches OSAS

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Reuben wrote:[
Anyone who preaches unconditional OSAS is in the ditch - I agree with you Billy.

Now I think what needs to be determined is Joe Prince who ever that may be, is really teaching OSAS. If he is then he is anathema. Simply as that. And Billy needs to be congratulated for exposing a false hood.


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We all have different views on different things. IMHO accepting or rejecting OSAS is not a foundational thing. If you remain in Christ you will go to Heaven whether you believe in OSAS or not. I am inclined not to accept the OSAS approach but can fellowship with those who do, especially if they're not cessationists.


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:angel: :angel: :angel: thank you Reverend.
Reuben wrote:
branham1965 wrote:NO HE DID NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE WAS SOUTHERN BAPTIST UNTIL HE GOT HIS THEOLOGY UPENDED BY THE LORD HIMSELF.

HE WOULD EVEN RE-BAPTIZE BACKSLIDERS....GET REAL MAN.

MY POINT IS JOE PRINCE IS IN THE DITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE EVEN WAS SAYING WE DONT NEED TO LIVE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REUBEN WHERE ARE YOU PASTOR???I NEED YOU.
frad70 wrote:Brother Hagin used to believe OSAS. He changed his mind. Anyone can, both ways, can't we? I'll keep on listening to both Dad Hagin and Pastor Joseph Prince.
Anyone who preaches unconditional OSAS is in the ditch - I agree with you Billy.

I read the article in Charisma concerning hyper-grace. It was very good. The unbalanced approach to grace ultimately will breed the teaching of actions of sin are pre-forgiven and are covered regardless of personal abandonment. Paul dealt with it in Romans 5-8. Shall we sin that grace may abound - you know what Paul's response was.


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Re: Joe Prince teaches OSAS

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i thank you.i could never put it that way.
Reuben wrote:
branham1965 wrote:NO HE DID NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE WAS SOUTHERN BAPTIST UNTIL HE GOT HIS THEOLOGY UPENDED BY THE LORD HIMSELF.

HE WOULD EVEN RE-BAPTIZE BACKSLIDERS....GET REAL MAN.

MY POINT IS JOE PRINCE IS IN THE DITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE EVEN WAS SAYING WE DONT NEED TO LIVE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REUBEN WHERE ARE YOU PASTOR???I NEED YOU.
frad70 wrote:Brother Hagin used to believe OSAS. He changed his mind. Anyone can, both ways, can't we? I'll keep on listening to both Dad Hagin and Pastor Joseph Prince.
Anyone who preaches unconditional OSAS is in the ditch - I agree with you Billy.

I read the article in Charisma concerning hyper-grace. It was very good. The unbalanced approach to grace ultimately will breed the teaching of actions of sin are pre-forgiven and are covered regardless of personal abandonment. Paul dealt with it in Romans 5-8. Shall we sin that grace may abound - you know what Paul's response was.


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why do you not believe me.i heard him say it all.i was not attempting to listen to either man but by chance i heard Creflo talking that stuff AND HE WAS....and Joseph as well.

i have nothing against either of them.i even like them.
BUT THEY ARE TEACHING THE HYPERGRACE REVEREND REUBEN THE MAN OF GOD SO ELOQUENTLY SPOKE OF. :|

Justaned wrote:
Reuben wrote:[
Anyone who preaches unconditional OSAS is in the ditch - I agree with you Billy.

Now I think what needs to be determined is Joe Prince who ever that may be, is really teaching OSAS. If he is then he is anathema. Simply as that. And Billy needs to be congratulated for exposing a false hood.


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Re: Joe Prince teaches OSAS

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You were right REVED. :agrue:

theres a few i like...but many i dont care for. :agrue:
frankly you Preachers right on here are far far far better than some of these bigshots.i mean that.you men ive heard preach it right.how blessed to go and hear that all the time.
Justaned wrote:Billy
This just proves my point these TV performers will say most anything if you listen to them long enough.


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Let me say on this point I think more and more Non OSAS are rethinking their position.

I don't think OSAS is correct but I also don't think we can be saved, lose our salvation, get resaved, lose that salvation, and be resaved, lose it again, get it back, lose it, get it back and on and on, as many teach.

To me Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10 are very clear. It is clearly stated a saved person can lose their salvation BUT that it is no possible to be resaved.

Sorry but that is clearly what those two passages teach. That Jesus can not be re-crucified nor can the blood that was trampled under foot be used to cleanse once again.


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Justaned wrote:Let me say on this point I think more and more Non OSAS are rethinking their position.

I don't think OSAS is correct but I also don't think we can be saved, lose our salvation, get resaved, lose that salvation, and be resaved, lose it again, get it back, lose it, get it back and on and on, as many teach.

To me Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10 are very clear. It is clearly stated a saved person can lose their salvation BUT that it is no possible to be resaved.

Sorry but that is clearly what those two passages teach. That Jesus can not be re-crucified nor can the blood that was trampled under foot be used to cleanse once again.
I think we would have to examine this a little closer. Is there a difference per-say, between an apostate and a backslider?


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Justaned wrote:Let me say on this point I think more and more Non OSAS are rethinking their position.

I don't think OSAS is correct but I also don't think we can be saved, lose our salvation, get resaved, lose that salvation, and be resaved, lose it again, get it back, lose it, get it back and on and on, as many teach.

To me Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10 are very clear. It is clearly stated a saved person can lose their salvation BUT that it is no possible to be resaved.

Sorry but that is clearly what those two passages teach. That Jesus can not be re-crucified nor can the blood that was trampled under foot be used to cleanse once again.
So that would be OLAL... right.

Once Lost Always Lost...


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Re: Joe Prince teaches OSAS

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bibleman wrote:
Justaned wrote:Let me say on this point I think more and more Non OSAS are rethinking their position.

I don't think OSAS is correct but I also don't think we can be saved, lose our salvation, get resaved, lose that salvation, and be resaved, lose it again, get it back, lose it, get it back and on and on, as many teach.

To me Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10 are very clear. It is clearly stated a saved person can lose their salvation BUT that it is no possible to be resaved.

Sorry but that is clearly what those two passages teach. That Jesus can not be re-crucified nor can the blood that was trampled under foot be used to cleanse once again.
So that would be OLAL... right.

Once Lost Always Lost...
No it would be OSALAL :mrgreen:
Once saved And Lost Always Lost Hebrews 6:1-6 Hebrew 10:26-29


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