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fatherfisher wrote:How do you rank Dr. Dake among your sources and what's your opinion of him?

Hi Dolph,

For me the value of the Dake Bible is:

** in his effort to give strictly biblical reasons for the viewpoints he presents. Often this is done by means of a listing of relevant passages, and sometimes the lists seem overly lengthy or contain prooftexts that don't actually prove his point . . . but at least he is trying to base everything on what the Word of God actually says in multiple places, not just 1 or 2 pet passages (thus avoiding the charge of "prooftexting").

** in his frequent mention of the Hebrew and/or Greek words that can help to illuminate the meaning of a verse, AND how those same words may have been translated differently in other places in the KJV. As I've mentioned at various times in my posts here, it isn't really the Greek or Hebrew dictionary (lexicon) that determines the meaning of any given word, but how that word is actually used in the Bible. Dake's notes are very helpful in that regard.

** in his running outlines through the various books of the Bible. To me this is much more useful than mere section headings.

** and, of course, in being challenged by some of his interpretations; I don't always agree with him, and can see where some of the discomfort that many feel with some of his ideas comes from . . . but I am still challenged to look at the biblical basis for what he says and at least he gives his biblical reasons so I can think them through for myself

So all of that to say that he is right up there in terms of sources, and really stands apart from some of the others I use in the ways I've just listed. My opinion of him is that he was a man specially blessed by God in his grasp of the Word and his desire to be "literal" in explaining the Word.

I don't think he walked on water, but nor do I think he was the charlatan and false teacher some make him out to be (or I wouldn't be here).
Fatherfisher
I would say that is a fair and accurate description of Dake and his notes.
Like you I think Dake was off a little on some of his doctrine but I don't think it makes him a charlatan that others try to make him. I also don't think he would agree with those today that try to label him or put words into his mouth.

Also for those that accept the dispensational/futuristic view of eschatology Dake is one of the best writers on it.


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Fatherfisher, how do you rate his Revelation Expounded? To me this is where he really shines. His explanation of the manchild , for instance, and that the tribulation is mainly God dealing with Israel.

Haven't read it Dolph, but I agree that his prophetic teaching in the Dake Bible is very good.


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dolph wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:Fatherfisher, how do you rate his Revelation Expounded? To me this is where he really shines. His explanation of the manchild , for instance, and that the tribulation is mainly God dealing with Israel.

Haven't read it Dolph, but I agree that his prophetic teaching in the Dake Bible is very good.
FF, is it Kosher to call anyone Father as some churches use the term?

If you want an excellent discussion on this go to
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/call-no-man-father


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dolph wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:Fatherfisher, how do you rate his Revelation Expounded? To me this is where he really shines. His explanation of the manchild , for instance, and that the tribulation is mainly God dealing with Israel.

Haven't read it Dolph, but I agree that his prophetic teaching in the Dake Bible is very good.
FF, is it Kosher to call anyone Father as some churches use the term?
no, unless he is the man who led you to Christ (1 Cor 4:15)


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Hi Dolph
not long after I joined here I explained that my handle was my email address name (we are the fisher family and 9 of us use the same email service). So I am "father" in the sense of Grandpa. That's how the grandkids set it up. But it's not the best for here. You're right to question. I will stop posting until I can register over again and be approved by Bibleman.


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fatherfisher wrote:Hi Dolph
not long after I joined here I explained that my handle was my email address name (we are the fisher family and 9 of us use the same email service). So I am "father" in the sense of Grandpa. That's how the grandkids set it up. But it's not the best for here. You're right to question. I will stop posting until I can register over again and be approved by Bibleman.
What name would you like I can change it for you!

That way you will be able to retain your stats.


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bibleman wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:Hi Dolph
not long after I joined here I explained that my handle was my email address name (we are the fisher family and 9 of us use the same email service). So I am "father" in the sense of Grandpa. That's how the grandkids set it up. But it's not the best for here. You're right to question. I will stop posting until I can register over again and be approved by Bibleman.
What name would you like I can change it for you!

That way you will be able to retain your stats.
Hay Bibleman, just an unimportant question? How come I lost all my stats when I changed my name??? Cheers, Haz.


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Ironman wrote:
bibleman wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:Hi Dolph
not long after I joined here I explained that my handle was my email address name (we are the fisher family and 9 of us use the same email service). So I am "father" in the sense of Grandpa. That's how the grandkids set it up. But it's not the best for here. You're right to question. I will stop posting until I can register over again and be approved by Bibleman.
What name would you like I can change it for you!

That way you will be able to retain your stats.
Hay Bibleman, just an unimportant question? How come I lost all my stats when I changed my name??? Cheers, Haz.
Hum... I don't know. You shouldn't have.

Lets ask Spirtblade Disciple, he changes his name about every 2 weeks! (BIG Smile)


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The fault in Bible complications is not with God or the Bible, but with men who refuse to believe what God says and think we have to interpret what He says in order to get the meaning. Dake Bible -Mark 11:17 note
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Re: Some questions for all those that say God isn't in contr

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bibleman wrote:
Ironman wrote:
bibleman wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:Hi Dolph
not long after I joined here I explained that my handle was my email address name (we are the fisher family and 9 of us use the same email service). So I am "father" in the sense of Grandpa. That's how the grandkids set it up. But it's not the best for here. You're right to question. I will stop posting until I can register over again and be approved by Bibleman.
What name would you like I can change it for you!

That way you will be able to retain your stats.
Hay Bibleman, just an unimportant question? How come I lost all my stats when I changed my name??? Cheers, Haz.
Hum... I don't know. You shouldn't have.

Lets ask Spirtblade Disciple, he changes his name about every 2 weeks! (BIG Smile)
Ha ha, Yes, when I changed my from ironbark to ironman I lost many hundreds of posts and my join date which was around 9 /7 /98 I think, around about the time I purchased my God's Plan for man book and my Dake Bible. I still have the reciept in my Bible case. I met macca around that time and he told me about this forum and I joined up about then. I also wrote to Dake publishing about the several typo errors regarding many Scriptural references in the God's Plan for Man book, which were corrected at the next printing! I recieved a thank you letter, sadly I can't find it now??

Cheers, Haz.


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Thanks Leon. How about titus213 or titus211?


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