Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Does everything happen for a reason?

[bibleman]

I just saw this posted on facebook.

"Everything happens for a reason!"

I have heard this in a number of life situations.
They come through a surgery and do NOT die - God spared me for a reason.
They have an automobile accident and total their car - This happened for a reason.
Their little baby dies - God took the little baby for a reason.

Question: What is the reason everything happens?

[Justaned]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

[bibleman]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

I hear you Ed,

BUT - what is the reason?

[Ray]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

I hear you Ed,

BUT - what is the reason?

GOD'S Plan.
GOD'S Will,is Done

[Justaned]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

I hear you Ed,

BUT - what is the reason?

What is the REASON? That is why we have to learn to TRUST in God!

Often the reason isn't seen or can't be fully understood but if our trust in God is where it needs to be we can rest knowing God is in control and making even this work to our good, because we love God and are called to his purpose of being more like Christ.

[bibleman]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

I hear you Ed,

BUT - what is the reason?

What is the REASON? That is why we have to learn to TRUST in God!

Often the reason isn't seen or can't be fully understood but if our trust in God is where it needs to be we can rest knowing God is in control and making even this work to our good, because we love God and are called to his purpose of being more like Christ.

If the reason can't be see or understood then how do you know there is one?

Maybe it was there was not a reason of God for the incident but it was in fact OUR reason that it happened?

Could you agree with that?

[bibleman]

I believe there is a reason for everything. If we look at the life of Joseph we clearly see everything that happened to him brought him one step closer to the where he could serve God most effectively by saving the Children of Israel.

We pray expecting God to intervene, to intervene means he must have the power to do so. If God has the power to intervene in all situations then God must be all powerful. If God is all powerful then God has to have control. If God is in control that there has to be a reason for everything.

So I guess the answer to the question is does your God answer your prayers or is he powerless to do anything about the situation you find yourself in?

Let me add the biggest problem with believing everything has a reason or purpose is often times we are not able to see that reason of purpose. Therefore we discount that it does have reason or purpose.

I hear you Ed,

BUT - what is the reason?

GOD'S Plan.
GOD'S Will,is Done

If it would be God's plan as you say then why and for what reason does God have a plan for us?

[Justaned]

If the reason can't be see or understood then how do you know there is one?

Maybe it was there was not a reason of God for the incident but it was in fact OUR reason that it happened?

Could you agree with that?

Bibleman
When the reason isn't seen that is when the Satan the adversary comes to us and says, you are getting kicked in the head for no reason. God isn't in this, this is just circumstance. Or he might try to blame us for it. In any case if he can convince us God has had nothing to do with it, he will then try to get us do something stupid like Abraham did with Hagar, or blame ourselves and become useless to God or in the worst case curse God.

Many people curse God when they don't get what they want. The want a child or a spouse to get well but instead the child or spouse dies. They can't see a reason and they begin to doubt. Satan comes and tells them their faith was too weak, or they had sin in their lives. They begin to blame themselves and lose the peace of Salvation. If Satan can he will try to get them to get even with God for it, doing something stupid like denying their faith or injurying themselves or others. Lastly Satan tries to get us to doubt God, to get angry, to think that God doesn't love us because God allowed something to happen that we couldn't figure out why. We may decide God is powerless, or is somehow witheld from helping us. All lies.

God said to trust him in all things, if we are in Christ we don't have to doubt ourselves, we don't have to question why, we don't even have to understand. All God asks of us is to trust in HIm.

[bibleman]

If the reason can't be see or understood then how do you know there is one?

Maybe it was there was not a reason of God for the incident but it was in fact OUR reason that it happened?

Could you agree with that?

Bibleman
When the reason isn't seen that is when the Satan the adversary comes to us and says, you are getting kicked in the head for no reason. God isn't in this, this is just circumstance. Or he might try to blame us for it. In any case if he can convince us God has had nothing to do with it, he will then try to get us do something stupid like Abraham did with Hagar, or blame ourselves and become useless to God or in the worst case curse God.

Many people curse God when they don't get what they want. The want a child or a spouse to get well but instead the child or spouse dies. They can't see a reason and they begin to doubt. Satan comes and tells them their faith was too weak, or they had sin in their lives. They begin to blame themselves and lose the peace of Salvation. If Satan can he will try to get them to get even with God for it, doing something stupid like denying their faith or injurying themselves or others. Lastly Satan tries to get us to doubt God, to get angry, to think that God doesn't love us because God allowed something to happen that we couldn't figure out why. We may decide God is powerless, or is somehow witheld from helping us. All lies.

God said to trust him in all things, if we are in Christ we don't have to doubt ourselves, we don't have to question why, we don't even have to understand. All God asks of us is to trust in HIm.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Many people curse God when they don't get what they want. The want a child or a spouse to get well but instead the child or spouse dies."

But what if the child died because the parent abused the child to death! In other words the REASON was that the parent was a child killer.

Would someone have the right to walk away and say: "Well I know there is a reason behind this" other than the fact that the parent was a child killer?

[Justaned]

If the reason can't be see or understood then how do you know there is one?

Maybe it was there was not a reason of God for the incident but it was in fact OUR reason that it happened?

Could you agree with that?

Bibleman
When the reason isn't seen that is when the Satan the adversary comes to us and says, you are getting kicked in the head for no reason. God isn't in this, this is just circumstance. Or he might try to blame us for it. In any case if he can convince us God has had nothing to do with it, he will then try to get us do something stupid like Abraham did with Hagar, or blame ourselves and become useless to God or in the worst case curse God.

Many people curse God when they don't get what they want. The want a child or a spouse to get well but instead the child or spouse dies. They can't see a reason and they begin to doubt. Satan comes and tells them their faith was too weak, or they had sin in their lives. They begin to blame themselves and lose the peace of Salvation. If Satan can he will try to get them to get even with God for it, doing something stupid like denying their faith or injurying themselves or others. Lastly Satan tries to get us to doubt God, to get angry, to think that God doesn't love us because God allowed something to happen that we couldn't figure out why. We may decide God is powerless, or is somehow witheld from helping us. All lies.

God said to trust him in all things, if we are in Christ we don't have to doubt ourselves, we don't have to question why, we don't even have to understand. All God asks of us is to trust in HIm.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Many people curse God when they don't get what they want. The want a child or a spouse to get well but instead the child or spouse dies."

But what if the child died because the parent abused the child to death! In other words the REASON was that the parent was a child killer.

Would someone have the right to walk away and say: "Well I know there is a reason behind this" other than the fact that the parent was a child killer?

Bibleman

Don't confuse sin and the consequences of sin as being God's purpose or reason.

If someone kills someone they are guilty of murder and that has consequences. Murderers are by law defined as criminals and thus are open to criminal proceedings.

However even the murder of this child I believe has a purpose or reason beyond the fact that someone sinned and killed the child. What the reason is I have no idea so I must trust in God that it be so.