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Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?

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There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week. The Messiah said that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights (Matthew 12:40). Of those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" mentioned in the verse is referring to the tomb. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language. And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. I wonder if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality.


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Since it's been a while, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.


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rstrats wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:51 pm Since it's been a while, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
Hi, rstrats...
Have you ever considered that the three days and nights Jonah spent inside the whale (and used as the pattern for Jesus' time in the grave) may have been figurative ?
Like...a partial day-night, a day and night, and another partial day-night ? (F, S, and S)
Or, that Jesus considered the night of His arrest as the preliminary night of His death and burial ? (Thursday in the above scenario)?

Otherwise, without some further inputs, I don't think we can find an exact 24 hour day-night in either Jonah's or Jesus' experience.
Thankfully, God has provided us with tons of other proofs of the truth of whom Jesus was.
Witnesses of His resurrection, for instance.

For myself, I consider the worst day of my life was when I got mugged in Houston (1978).
It took all of 5 minutes in real time.
So, a figurative day ?
For sure: and even those 5 minutes, had implications that lasted months !


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Hill Top,
re: "Have you ever considered that the three days and nights Jonah spent inside the whale (and used as the pattern for Jesus' time in the grave) may have been figurative ?"


I probably have with regard to Jonah. But I haven't thought that with regard to scripture not meaning that each one of three night times and that each one of three daytimes would be involved with the Messiah's time in the "heart of the earth. But at any rate, that would be an issue for a different topic.


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rstrats wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:51 pm Since it's been a while, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
I came across this "figure of speech" on another site..."The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (John 1:29)
The world's sin has not been taken away.
But the way to have them taken away, has been given to every man in the world who wants his past sins remitted.


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Hill Top wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:23 pm
rstrats wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:51 pm Since it's been a while, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
I came across this "figure of speech" on another site..."The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (John 1:29)
The world's sin has not been taken away.
But the way to have them taken away, has been given to every man in the world who wants his past sins remitted.
I don't see how this is an example of where a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been.


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rstrats wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 6:59 am
Hill Top wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 11:23 pm
rstrats wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 5:51 pm Since it's been a while, perhaps someone new looking in may know of examples.
I came across this "figure of speech" on another site..."The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." (John 1:29)
The world's sin has not been taken away.
But the way to have them taken away, has been given to every man in the world who wants his past sins remitted.
I don't see how this is an example of where a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been.
OK.
I thought you were just looking for figures of speech.

Jesus' parable of the idle workers, in Matt 20:5-6, is a good example of "all day" not being an entire day.


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[quote="Hill Top
OK.
I thought you were just looking for figures of speech.


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Correct, examples (plural) of figures of speech which show that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be. See the last two sentences of the OP.


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rstrats wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 4:55 pm Correct, examples (plural) of figures of speech which show that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be. See the last two sentences of the OP.

Is there a purpose to your inquisition about 3 days and 3 nights ?
Or are you simply looking for your figures of speech ?


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Re: Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?

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[quote="Hill Top

Is there a purpose to your inquisition about 3 days and 3 nights ?

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Actually, my inquisition is about the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be.
and my purpose is simply to

And my purpose is simply to satisfy my curiosity about the issue.


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