What should we as Christians do to address this at their church?Eternal Security - The Eternal Security doctrine is the "once saved, always saved" doctrine that so many people have trouble believing, because it just doesn't sound logical.
Actually, it is VERY logical and very scriptural as well.
My eternal security in Christ is based on my RELATIONSHIP with God, not my fellowship with Him.
I am not saved because I fear God and serve Him, but rather because I have entered into a Father/Son relationship with Him through the Lord Jesus Christ.
I was once a child of the Devil and a child of wrath (Jn. 8:44; Eph. 2:3), but now I am a son of God (Jhn. 1:12; I Jhn. 3:2; Rom. 8:14; Gal. 4:5).
Upon receiving Christ as my Savior, I was SEALED with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30; II Cor. 1:22), and I am KEPT by the power of God (I Pet. 1:5), not by my own power.
Jesus will never leave me nor forsake me (Heb. 13:5; Mat. 28:20), because He BOUGHT me with His own blood (Acts 20:28; I Cor. 6:19-20).
If I choose to be a disobedient child, then my Father in Heaven will CHASTEN me (Rev. 3:19; Heb. 12:4-8; I Cor. 11:30-32), but I will remain a saved and sealed son of God (Jhn. 5:24; I Jhn. 5:11-13; Rom. 8:38-39; Phi. 1:6; Jhn. 6:37; 10:28-29).
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What should we as Christians do!
Just saw this on a Church website.
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Re: What should we as Christians do!
How about this one!
Joel Osteen getting rebuked right in the Church service.
Joel Osteen getting rebuked right in the Church service.
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This can be a real struggle and can depend on the doctrine. I find that many times visiting other churches you learn of their doctrines and the battle lines get drawn then into battle you go. Are you wasting your time, or should you not look at it this way?bibleman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:16 am Just saw this on a Church website.
What should we as Christians do to address this at their church?Eternal Security - The Eternal Security doctrine is the "once saved, always saved" doctrine that so many people have trouble believing, because it just doesn't sound logical.
Actually, it is VERY logical and very scriptural as well.
My eternal security in Christ is based on my RELATIONSHIP with God, not my fellowship with Him.
I am not saved because I fear God and serve Him, but rather because I have entered into a Father/Son relationship with Him through the Lord Jesus Christ.
I was once a child of the Devil and a child of wrath (Jn. 8:44; Eph. 2:3), but now I am a son of God (Jhn. 1:12; I Jhn. 3:2; Rom. 8:14; Gal. 4:5).
Upon receiving Christ as my Savior, I was SEALED with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30; II Cor. 1:22), and I am KEPT by the power of God (I Pet. 1:5), not by my own power.
Jesus will never leave me nor forsake me (Heb. 13:5; Mat. 28:20), because He BOUGHT me with His own blood (Acts 20:28; I Cor. 6:19-20).
If I choose to be a disobedient child, then my Father in Heaven will CHASTEN me (Rev. 3:19; Heb. 12:4-8; I Cor. 11:30-32), but I will remain a saved and sealed son of God (Jhn. 5:24; I Jhn. 5:11-13; Rom. 8:38-39; Phi. 1:6; Jhn. 6:37; 10:28-29).
You may not go there with that intent, but no doubt your belief will be confronted at some point after all it is how we believe. With the OSAS doctrine I have never saw one person change their view on it that I know of, yet I am guessing it is possible.
The thing is, you grow tired of the battle at some point and what do you do? I tend to move away from the battle for some reason as I have gotten older. I really look at Paul's letters and how he dealt with it and wonder if I would ever have the strength to do what he did when dealing with false doctrines.
Word up!
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Re: What should we as Christians do!
And let's not forget the Catholics!
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The fault in Bible complications is not with God or the Bible, but with men who refuse to believe what God says and think we have to interpret what He says in order to get the meaning. Dake Bible -Mark 11:17 note
Leon Bible
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Re: What should we as Christians do!
bibleman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:16 am Just saw this on a Church website.
The children of God can only produce the fruit of the seed they have been reborn from.Eternal Security - The Eternal Security doctrine is the "once saved, always saved" doctrine that so many people have trouble believing, because it just doesn't sound logical.
Actually, it is VERY logical and very scriptural as well.
My eternal security in Christ is based on my RELATIONSHIP with God, not my fellowship with Him.
I am not saved because I fear God and serve Him, but rather because I have entered into a Father/Son relationship with Him through the Lord Jesus Christ.
I was once a child of the Devil and a child of wrath (Jn. 8:44; Eph. 2:3), but now I am a son of God (Jhn. 1:12; I Jhn. 3:2; Rom. 8:14; Gal. 4:5).
Sin manifests sinners are not reborn of God.
(Sarcasm alert)...And Apple seeds CAN produce onions.!Upon receiving Christ as my Savior, I was SEALED with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30; II Cor. 1:22), and I am KEPT by the power of God (I Pet. 1:5), not by my own power.
Jesus will never leave me nor forsake me (Heb. 13:5; Mat. 28:20), because He BOUGHT me with His own blood (Acts 20:28; I Cor. 6:19-20).
If I choose to be a disobedient child, then my Father in Heaven will CHASTEN me (Rev. 3:19; Heb. 12:4-8; I Cor. 11:30-32), but I will remain a saved and sealed son of God (Jhn. 5:24; I Jhn. 5:11-13; Rom. 8:38-39; Phi. 1:6; Jhn. 6:37; 10:28-29).
Leave, after you have presented the "other" side of the POV and been rejected.What should we as Christians do to address this at their church?