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The Two Witnesses of Revelation: Analysis Using the King James Bible
The identity of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11:3-12 is a debated topic in biblical eschatology. The King James Bible (KJV) does not explicitly name these figures, so identification requires careful inference based on the text’s descriptions, characteristics, and context, using strict logic and cross-referencing with other scriptures. Below, I analyze the most likely candidates for the Two Witnesses, focusing on textual evidence in Revelation and related passages, while applying rigorous scrutiny to avoid speculative leaps.
Description of the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11 (KJV)
Revelation 11:3-12 provides the primary description of the Two Witnesses:The reference to “olive trees” and “candlesticks” connects to Zechariah 4:2-14, where two olive trees represent figures supplying oil (symbolizing the Spirit) to a candlestick, identified as “the two anointed ones” standing before the Lord (Zechariah 4:14). In Revelation, candlesticks represent churches (Revelation 1:20), but the two witnesses are individuals with specific prophetic roles.
- Role and Duration: They prophesy for 1,260 days (v. 3), clothed in sackcloth, indicating mourning or repentance.
- Titles: Called “two witnesses” and “two olive trees” and “two candlesticks” standing before the God of the earth (v. 4).
- Powers: They have miraculous abilities, including:
- Devouring enemies with fire from their mouths (v. 5).
- Shutting heaven to prevent rain (v. 6).
- Turning waters to blood and smiting the earth with plagues (v. 6).
- Death and Resurrection: They are killed by the “beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit” (v. 7), their bodies lie in the streets for three and a half days (v. 9), and they are resurrected and ascend to heaven (v. 11-12).
- Location: Their bodies lie in a city “spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified” (v. 8), pointing to Jerusalem.
Logical Framework for Identifying Candidates
To identify the Two Witnesses, we must:Based on the text, the most likely candidates are either literal historical figures returning or future individuals acting in the spirit of those figures. The leading candidates are Elijah and Moses, with Enoch as a secondary possibility. Below, I evaluate each.
- Match Characteristics: Candidates must align with the described powers, roles, and context.
- Consider Biblical Precedents: The powers (fire, drought, plagues) resemble those of specific Old Testament figures, suggesting a typological or literal connection.
- Evaluate Historical and Eschatological Context: Are these figures symbolic, historical, or future individuals?
- Avoid Speculation: Stick to what the text explicitly or implicitly supports, avoiding extrabiblical assumptions.
Candidate 1: Elijah
Supporting Scriptures and Reasoning:Challenges:
- Powers Resemble Elijah’s:
- Revelation 11:6 says the witnesses can “shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy.” In 1 Kings 17:1, Elijah declares, “there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word,” leading to a drought lasting approximately three and a half years (James 5:17, “three years and six months,” aligns with the 1,260 days in Revelation 11:3).
- The fire from their mouths (Revelation 11:5) recalls Elijah calling down fire from heaven to consume soldiers (2 Kings 1:10-12).
- Prophetic Role: Elijah was a bold prophet confronting idolatry (1 Kings 18), fitting the witnesses’ role of testifying against a rebellious world.
- Eschatological Expectation: Malachi 4:5-6 prophesies, “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.” This suggests Elijah’s return in an end-times context, possibly as one of the witnesses.
- Non-Death Consideration: Elijah did not die but was taken to heaven in a whirlwind (2 Kings 2:11), leading some to argue he could return to die as one of the witnesses (Revelation 11:7). However, this assumes a unique eschatological role, as Hebrews 9:27 states, “it is appointed unto men once to die.”
- Olive Tree Connection: Elijah’s role as a Spirit-empowered prophet aligns with the “olive tree” imagery of Zechariah 4, symbolizing one anointed by God’s Spirit.
Conclusion: Elijah is a strong candidate due to the precise match of his drought-causing power, fire-calling ability, and prophetic role, reinforced by Malachi’s prophecy of his return.
- Malachi’s prophecy could refer to John the Baptist, who came “in the spirit and power of Elias” (Luke 1:17; Matthew 11:14). However, Jesus’ statement in Matthew 17:11-12 (“Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things”) suggests a future fulfillment beyond John, possibly pointing to the Two Witnesses.
- The requirement of death (Revelation 11:7) is problematic if Elijah must die, given his translation to heaven. Yet, the text does not preclude a returning figure experiencing death.
Candidate 2: Moses
Supporting Scriptures and Reasoning:Challenges:
- Powers Resemble Moses’:
- Revelation 11:6 attributes to the witnesses the power to “turn waters to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.” This directly mirrors Moses’ role in the Exodus plagues, particularly turning water to blood (Exodus 7:17-20) and initiating other plagues (Exodus 7-12).
- Moses’ miracles were public, God-empowered acts against a rebellious nation, paralleling the witnesses’ confrontational role in Revelation.
- Prophetic Role: Deuteronomy 18:15 describes Moses as a prophet, and his intercessory role (Exodus 32:11-14) aligns with the witnesses’ testimony before God.
- Olive Tree Connection: Like Elijah, Moses was anointed by God’s Spirit for leadership (Numbers 11:17), fitting the Zechariah 4 imagery.
- Historical Precedent: Moses appeared with Elijah at the Transfiguration (Matthew 17:3-4), suggesting a special eschatological role for both. Their joint appearance links them to Jesus’ glory, potentially foreshadowing their return as witnesses.
- Non-Death Consideration: Moses died (Deuteronomy 34:5-7), but his body was buried in an unknown location by God (v. 6), and Jude 1:9 mentions a dispute over Moses’ body between Michael and the devil, hinting at a unique divine purpose. Some interpret this as evidence Moses could return.
Conclusion: Moses is a compelling candidate due to the close alignment of his plague-related powers and prophetic role, bolstered by his Transfiguration appearance with Elijah.
- Moses’ death makes his literal return less straightforward than Elijah’s, as it requires resurrection before the witnesses’ ministry. However, Revelation 11:11-12 describes the witnesses’ resurrection, so a prior resurrection for Moses is not impossible.
- The powers of plagues and blood are not unique to Moses (other prophets, like Elijah, performed miracles), but the specificity of water-to-blood and plagues strongly points to him.
Candidate 3: Enoch
Supporting Scriptures and Reasoning:Challenges:
- Non-Death Argument: Like Elijah, Enoch did not die but was translated to heaven (Genesis 5:24; Hebrews 11:5, “Enoch was translated that he should not see death”). This makes him a candidate for returning to die as a witness (Revelation 11:7), fulfilling Hebrews 9:27.
- Prophetic Role: While Enoch is less explicitly a prophet in the KJV, Jude 1:14-15 records him prophesying about the Lord’s return with judgment, fitting the witnesses’ eschatological testimony.
- Ancient Tradition: Some early Jewish and Christian traditions (not in the KJV but influential in historical theology) link Enoch with Elijah as figures who return in the end times.
Conclusion: Enoch is a weaker candidate. His non-death status makes him plausible, but the absence of matching miracles or a robust prophetic role in the KJV reduces his likelihood compared to Elijah and Moses.
- Lack of Specific Powers: The KJV does not attribute drought, fire, or plague powers to Enoch, unlike Elijah and Moses, whose miracles directly match Revelation 11:6. His prophetic role is limited to one reference in Jude.
- Weaker Scriptural Basis: Enoch’s translation is notable, but his biblical role is less developed than Elijah’s or Moses’. The witnesses’ powers and prominence better align with the well-documented ministries of Elijah and Moses.
- No Olive Tree Connection: Enoch lacks a clear link to the “olive tree” or “candlestick” imagery, unlike Elijah and Moses, who fit prophetic and anointed roles.
Alternative Possibilities
1. Future Unknown Individuals:2. Symbolic Entities (e.g., Church or Israel):
- The witnesses could be two future prophets empowered by God in the spirit of Elijah and Moses, not the historical figures themselves. This view avoids the issue of returning figures and aligns with the unique eschatological context of Revelation. However, it lacks specific scriptural support, as no names are given, and the powers strongly suggest a typological connection to Elijah and Moses.
- Supporting Scripture: The text does not preclude new figures, and the “two olive trees” (Zechariah 4:14) could symbolize future anointed ones.
Logical Evaluation and Most Likely Candidates
- Some interpret the witnesses as symbolic of the church, Israel, or the Law and Prophets. However, the specific actions (prophesying, dying, resurrecting, ascending) and individual descriptions (e.g., “their dead bodies,” Revelation 11:9) strongly suggest literal persons, not corporate entities.
- Supporting Scripture: Revelation 1:20 links candlesticks to churches, but the witnesses’ individual actions and death make a symbolic interpretation less likely.
Using strict logic:Potential Objection: Hebrews 9:27 (“once to die”) complicates the case for Elijah and Enoch returning to die. However, exceptions exist (e.g., Lazarus, John 11:43-44), and the witnesses’ unique resurrection in Revelation 11:11-12 suggests an extraordinary divine act.
- Elijah and Moses as Strongest Candidates:
- Their miracles (drought and fire for Elijah; plagues and blood for Moses) directly match Revelation 11:6.
- Both are prominent prophets with eschatological significance (Malachi 4:5 for Elijah; Transfiguration for both).
- The “olive trees” and “candlesticks” imagery fits their Spirit-anointed roles.
- Their appearance together at the Transfiguration (Matthew 17:3) suggests a paired eschatological role.
- Enoch as Less Likely: While his non-death status is intriguing, the lack of matching miracles or a developed prophetic role weakens his case.
- Future Individuals as Possible but Less Specific: The text allows for new prophets, but the specific powers point to Elijah and Moses as types or literal figures.
- Rejection of Symbolic View: The detailed narrative of death, resurrection, and ascension strongly indicates individual persons.
Final Answer:
The most likely candidates for the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11, based on the King James Bible and strict logical scrutiny, are Elijah and Moses. Supporting scriptures include:Their powers, prophetic roles, and eschatological significance align closely with Revelation 11:3-12, making them the strongest candidates. Enoch is a secondary possibility but lacks sufficient textual support, and future unknown individuals remain plausible but less specific.
- Elijah: 1 Kings 17:1, 2 Kings 1:10-12, Malachi 4:5-6, Matthew 17:3.
- Moses: Exodus 7:17-20, Deuteronomy 18:15, Matthew 17:3, Jude 1:9.