Current Events & News Items & Jokes ⇒ Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

[bibleman]

Hi all,

Well I finally found it. Brother Hagin get real clear on sin. According to Brother Hagin the ONLY sin that people will go to Hell for is the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ.

At 6:00 in this video he says:

If you robbed 100 banks, if you committed adultery 1,000 times, if you killed 300 people, not a one of them would send you to Hell.

Very sad to hear.

[Ironman]

With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since.

[bibleman]

With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since.

Yeap! I listen to him most everyday. But that being said this is a pretty big error!

[Ironman]

Like I said earlier,

"With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since."

Me too, I wont put anyone down, remember judge not.

I was on another forum a day or so ago supporting Finis Dake. A long term member on that forum was telling members that Dake was a heretic, a child molester, and went into detail adding that he never repented and simply blamed the devil for making him do it? He added, who would follow or believe any teaching that came out of his heretical mouth. I was warned by the boards owner I would be banned if I continued to insult the member making the accusations. How I insulted the member simply by defending Dake was beyond me?

Matthew 7:1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

[bibleman]

Like I said earlier,

"With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since."

Me too, I wont put anyone down, remember judge not.

I was on another forum a day or so ago supporting Finis Dake. A long term member on that forum was telling members that Dake was a heretic, a child molester, and went into detail adding that he never repented and simply blamed the devil for making him do it? He added, who would follow or believe any teaching that came out of his heretical mouth. I was warned by the boards owner I would be banned if I continued to insult the member making the accusations. How I insulted the member simply by defending Dake was beyond me?

Matthew 7:1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

I agree that we don't judge someone's motives or their heart.

But we are to judge their words.

Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 1 Cor 14:29

[macca]

Leon I do not hear Dad say what you are claiming at all..... Dad is talking about the world.. not Christians and as such I totally agree with what he said.
macca

[branham1965]

Thank you macca. i AGREE WITH YOU 100%%%%%

i appreciate you and Haz commenting on this.

Leon I do not hear Dad say what you are claiming at all..... Dad is talking about the world.. not Christians and as such I totally agree with what he said.
macca

[Ironman]

Leon I do not hear Dad say what you are claiming at all..... Dad is talking about the world.. not Christians and as such I totally agree with what he said.
macca

Thanks macca, I'm with you, As an aside, I'm voting "NO" on the gay marriage pleb., garbage our government is going on about.

[bibleman]

WOW, don't get angry with me because I pointed out what brother Hagin said! It is on the video, you can hear it for yourself.

The title of the message is: "The Only Sin That Leads To Hell _ Kenneth E Hagin"

Also on the tape concerning robbing a filling station brother Hagin says: "You could stop on the way home an rob a filling station. God will permit you to do it but it is not his will for you to do it. He then says you can still do it but you will get out of the will of God." NOW of course that statement is true. But notice he never said you would lose your salvation for robbing the filling station - you would just get out of the will of God.

Now of course I love brother Hagin. I have every single book and tape he ever did. I listen to him almost every single day. I have listened over and over and over again to him minister. I have been to a number of his meetings. I have met him personally. I have met with and had a number of discussions with his son Ken Jr. I love brother Hagin without doubt and without question.

BUT He said what he said and you can't blame me for what brother Hagin said.

Here is the full quote:

And did you ever stop to think about it? According to the Scriptures, that's the only sin that will cause anybody to go to Hell.
If you robbed 100 banks, if you committed adultery 1,000 times, if you killed 300 people, not a one of them would send you to Hell... But not accepting Jesus. Are you listening to me. Are you listening to me.

Now that is what brother Hagin said. I would ask you the same question brother Hagin asked: "Are you listening to HIM?"

On the other side of the coin here is what Dake says about committing sin:

One sin brought all the nation to defeat and caused God to stop His blessing. One sin is what caused Adam and the whole race to be under the present curse (Gen. 2:19; Rom. 5:12-21). One sin brings the same result as committing all sins (Jas. 2:9-10). Any one of the death-penalty sins of Mk. 7:19-21; Rom. 1:21-32; 1Cor. 6:9-11; Gal. 5:19-21; Col. 3:5-10 will damn the soul of any person, regardless of his claims to salvation, for there is no partiality with God. Grace, love, mercy, and salvation from God do not license one to sin or free him from responsibility. Sin has its deadly effect on all alike -- in every generation, in every place and among all races.
Finis Jennings Dake, Dake's Annotated Reference Bible: Containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version Text, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1997), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: "Chapter 7".

I love BOTH Dake and Hagin. They are such vessels of deposit into my life! But on this issue Dake is right.

Let me ask you guys a question. Where in any of Hagin's books or tapes did he ever say that you would go to Hell for sin? Not lose fellowship... but go to Hell?

It would help a lot to have one of those quotes.

[Ironman]

"Brother Hagin taught us to be like an old cow... eat the good and spit out the bad.

And chew the cud!

Chewing a cud is a process by which some animals, called ruminants (camels, goats, sheep, deer, and cattle), thoroughly digest their food.