Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ CREFLO no need to confess sin

[victoryword]

Frankly I think the man has more integrity, spiritual hunger, faithfulness, love of God and theological knowledge than most of the people that oppose him

Nah, you don't stand up and defend John MacArthur. Nope. This posts shows the great disdain you have for his Calvinism, his cessationism, and his attacks on Pentecostals. Thanks Ed for setting the record straight with me. I stand corrected. Your post above refutes any thing I claimed otherwise.

So, do you feel the same about Benjamin B. Warfield?

[macca]

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

Listen to this. 4 minutes long.

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Here is the whole message.

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Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

BUT this was NOT said on the video that Billy and Ed spoke about.

The point is, that I was trying to make is you do not judge someone without the evidence.

So now based on this video and NOT the other we have a discussion.

But now all of this being said, it seems to me that based on what I have heard Ed say on this forum and what I have heard Creflo say on that video... Well they are both saying the same thing.

I had a listen and i have somewhat to say about what was tought here.

The sin problem has all to do with the CHRISTIAN not the unbeliever.

Its a wast of time telling a non-christian that they are a sinner, etc etc.

For their rejection of Jesus is why they are going to hell, sin is their nature.
A christian's nature is Christ like and not a sinner. Otherwise Jesus was a sinner as well, thats just plain stupid.

Look at what Paul said in 1 Cor. 5:9;
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters,
since then you would need to go out of the world.
But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner - not even to eat with such a person.
For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside?
Do you not judge those who are inside?
But those who are outside God judges.
Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person.


i see a great problem here with his teaching.

macca

[bibleman]

OK guys,

Dr. Creflo Dollar, Who Said It's Ok to Sin

Listen to this. 4 minutes long.

[video][/video]

Here is the whole message.

[video][/video]

Listen to this and you will hear some very troubling teaching, long about 20:00 and then 38:00, and then to 46:00.

BUT this was NOT said on the video that Billy and Ed spoke about.

The point is, that I was trying to make is you do not judge someone without the evidence.

So now based on this video and NOT the other we have a discussion.

But now all of this being said, it seems to me that based on what I have heard Ed say on this forum and what I have heard Creflo say on that video... Well they are both saying the same thing.

I had a listen and i have somewhat to say about what was tought here.

The sin problem has all to do with the CHRISTIAN not the unbeliever.

Its a wast of time telling a non-christian that they are a sinner, etc etc.

For their rejection of Jesus is why they are going to hell, sin is their nature.
A christian's nature is Christ like and not a sinner. Otherwise Jesus was a sinner as well, thats just plain stupid.

Look at what Paul said in 1 Cor. 5:9;
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters,
since then you would need to go out of the world.
But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner - not even to eat with such a person.
For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside?
Do you not judge those who are inside?
But those who are outside God judges.
Therefore put away from yourselves the evil person.


i see a great problem here with his teaching.

macca

Hi macca,

I have been blessed by Creflo for many years, it is truly heart breaking to see him go this direction!

[frad70]

Saw the 1st clip. Creflo said it's not OK to sin and he said it offends God. That's very orthodox!

[Justaned]

Saw the 1st clip. Creflo said it's not OK to sin and he said it offends God. That's very orthodox!

Not trying to be insulting but considering the quote contained in your signature line how would you know what is considered orthodox and what is not? I mean that quote is about as unorthodox as a person can get. I can only imagine how much Kenyon regrets ever saying it now.

[frad70]

Kenyon IMHO doesn't regret saying that. I think all of us consider it orthodox to say sin isn't OK and sin offends God.

[bibleman]

Saw the 1st clip. Creflo said it's not OK to sin and he said it offends God. That's very orthodox!

Notice Creflo (4:05) tells us that "the consequences of sin have changed now that we are saved."

NOT Biblical.

Creflo is OSAS, also not Biblical.

[Justaned]

Kenyon IMHO doesn't regret saying that. I think all of us consider it orthodox to say sin isn't OK and sin offends God.

The fact that it is orthodox to say sin isn't OK and sin offends God was not what mystified me, I was your ability to recognize it in light of how deceived you show yourself to be by using the quote of Kenyon.
From what I know of Kenyon I think he might.

[frad70]

He'd probably say that King David went to Hell, as I think we both believe in JDS I can understand why he said that. I don't think he ever believed John the (Southern? ) Baptist is there now.

[branham1965]

only an imbecile would ever believe such a idiotic notion.

imean that John Baptist was lost.

not the theory some teach.i dont believe a word of it.but good folks have believed it.still do. +pieface

He'd probably say that King David went to Hell, as I think we both believe in JDS I can understand why he said that. I don't think he ever believed John the (Southern? ) Baptist is there now.