Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Halloween

[Rocky]

As I said before how you look and dress is your problem not mine. If you dress to look different from the average person then why be surprised when you are treated different???? People form opinions on initial impressions that is fact that is human nature. If it weren't true you would have no reason dress as you do to look different.
Again the problem is yours not mine so don't try to place it on me.

Oh but it is a problem that you have. People like you always want to place the blame for this narrow way of thinking on someone else. So its my fault that you are judgemental? Blame others for you prejudices, how convenient. Your reply here is so illogical that I don't even know were to begin. look what you just typed Ed. In essence you just pretty much said, if I am prejudice and judgmental it is some ones else fault because its their fault that I am this way. I don't care what Ironman said, Judging others in this way is forbidden in the bible. Ed is there any chance that this maybe just a shortcoming that you have, and possibly you are responsible for what you think and what you do, and not others? You keep making excuses about it like ,oh its human nature, or they should not look like that or I wouldn't judge. But since you are so mature in the lord shouldn't you be able to rise above this human weakness and walk in the spirit about it? You know: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness goodness, faithfulness Self control, and meekness..

[Ironman]

Ed and Iron man, Way to show that Christian love brothers. Christian can be the most judgmental, condescending, and critical people ever, I am almost discouraged here. But I know Jesus does not see things the way you see them.

You wrote;

"Oh but it is a problem that you have."

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Ed doesnt have a problem, neither do I, You have the problem mate and you cannot see it!

Yes I am every mans brother in Christ. If you were my true physical brother through I would kick your ar*se good and propper! I would from now on, untill you grew a spine, name you Nancy, and I would advise you to grow a spine ASAP mate.

If you believe the bible as you said "The bible totally condemns Judging someones appearance." and in saying so ignore Paul regarding the apperance of men;

Paul said; "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" (1 Cor. 11:14).

Then you are some kind of wierd-o! Blaming others who dont agree with you about people who wish to look like freaks of nature and calling them un- christian?

Welcome to your gods kingdom where you will probably meet people like this!

Hi, my name is Tigger! Yes, I know I have tattood my face and body to look like a tiger, I have even had my teeth replaced and sharpened to like fangs, I have even had a tail grafted to my bottom!

Please dont judge me by my appearance but, May I please ask for the hand in marriage of your youngest daughter??

I have pictures if you would like to see them of this maniac!


You say;

"I am almost discouraged here. "

Boo Hoo Hoo, poor me, Haz doesnt love me, Ed doesn't love me, everybody hates me, I think I'll eat some worms!

Hay! but God loves me even if I agree with the devils on going crap regarding looking like some simple minded demon posessed piece of flotsum that washed up on a beach during the last storm!

Nancy, yep that you, Rocky left the room when you started crying,

Jesus called a spade a spade!

Read this!

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness." (Matt. 23:27).

Ohhh;

"which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness."

How dare Jesus judge these hypocrits???

Grow some bones mate starting with a back bone! and stop crying if I dont agree with you! Ed and I and even Bibleman dont all ways agree but we dont cry about it and threaten to take our bats and balls and leave the game??

[macca]

Come on Rocky lets start our own board and leave Ed's board to the judges of this world. ba humbug, you fellows make me sick.

macca the fed up

[Justaned]

As I said before how you look and dress is your problem not mine. If you dress to look different from the average person then why be surprised when you are treated different???? People form opinions on initial impressions that is fact that is human nature. If it weren't true you would have no reason dress as you do to look different.
Again the problem is yours not mine so don't try to place it on me.

Oh but it is a problem that you have. People like you always want to place the blame for this narrow way of thinking on someone else. So its my fault that you are judgemental? Blame others for you prejudices, how convenient. Your reply here is so illogical that I don't even know were to begin. look what you just typed Ed. In essence you just pretty much said, if I am prejudice and judgmental it is some ones else fault because its their fault that I am this way. I don't care what Ironman said, Judging others in this way is forbidden in the bible. Ed is there any chance that this maybe just a shortcoming that you have, and possibly you are responsible for what you think and what you do, and not others? You keep making excuses about it like ,oh its human nature, or they should not look like that or I wouldn't judge. But since you are so mature in the lord shouldn't you be able to rise above this human weakness and walk in the spirit about it? You know: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness goodness, faithfulness Self control, and meekness..

Where is judging a person's appearance forbidden in the Bible? If someone looks different are we just to overlook that and say here brother I have a million dollars or two precious children I want you to watch? NO! If someone looks odd we have to approach them as we see them. Now if we find they are really normal people dressed oddly then it would be wrong to still treat them as odd. However until that decision is made we would be stupid not to be leery of them.

The question I have is why dress in a way that makes people question you motivates? Is so you can prove them wrong? So you get the attention you need? Is it to try to show them up as hypocrites that you can then complain about? You say it is your way of expressing yourself. Yet you deny me the right to express myself by saying people dress like that turn me off.

You say my position lack logic, no actually your position lacks logic. You dress for reaction and when you get a reaction you express contempt for those that react. Does that even remotely make sense?

You say you don't dress for reaction but that is not true if you weren't after the reaction you would not dress that way. Without the reaction the dress would make no sense.

[branham1965]

come on guys.please lets walk in love and try to get along.

we are here because we love God .and we love Reverend Dake and his works.and we should care for each other.
1 Cor 13.

we should try to get along better.

there was a bloke in St.Mary's Catholic school who was a brain.he is a Doctor or ???today.

if a few lads were having a scrap he always jumped in to break it up and ended up catching a few himself.

[cpbeller]

All I gotta say is...

According to Ed, the mafia must be the most upstanding citizens in the world...they wear suits and ties.

[Justaned]

All I gotta say is...

According to Ed, the mafia must be the most upstanding citizens in the world...they wear suits and ties.

You know that is not what I'm saying at all.
I said if you dress in an abnormal way you have to expect reaction. So why complain when you get that reaction?

[Justaned]

This discussion is a perfect example of how the Homosexual community has made the inroads it has.

Most Homosexual are undetectable in society we only know if a person is a homosexual when they declare it.

They "come out" and people react then they say your judging.

Instead of letting it go at that they wait until there is a crowd and then they begin to display intimate affection and people react at two men in deep embrace and kissing or two women groping each other. They try to say it is because we unfairly judge them. No their behavior was done to cause a reaction and when they got the reaction they act like they were the offended party instead of the people that had to react to them.

If they had done nothing no one would even know they were homosexual. But they don't want that they want people to react so they can make them feel guilty for reacting. Soon non homosexuals are the people are told they have a problem because they react when they see two men in deep kissing. The problem is not with non homosexuals it is with those that seek the reaction.

Think about this, this is exactly with the homosexual community has done. The shifted the problem from sin of Homosexuality to people that hold it as being a sin and react when homosexuals declare themselves as homosexuals.

[cpbeller]

So now you are saying it is not ok to judge someone by their appearance and how they dress? You have spent the last several pages of this thread telling us how normal and ok it is to judge someone by the clothes they wear.

You remind me of a church I once knew of in a small town I lived in. Two teenage girls decided to go to church, but they were not wearing nice dresses, they were wearing jeans (oh my God!!! Not jeans on a woman!!!). One of the ushers stopped them at the door, told them to go home, clean themselves up, then they can come back to church. Well, they left, but they instead went drinking and partying. Afterall, the church didn't want them (even though one of the great hymns is "Just As I Am", right?). They died that night in an automobile accident. Not long after that, the church completely fell apart.

I personally feel that this "old school holiness" is one of the major contributing factors in the decline of Christianity. When the Church is more focused on keeping the sinner out of "their" church (because of the sinners sin), instead of reaching out to the those sinners...well, no wonder the sinners will continue to go to the bars instead of to the churches.

You all realize that Jesus did not come to condemn the world, right? If He didn't come to condemn the world, but rather to save it...what gives you the right (old school holiness or whatever you choose to say to justify your stupid judgemental position) to condemn. It is not your right to condemn, but rather to love. It isn't even your job to convict of sin. That is the Holy Spirit's work, not yours. You want to continue to judge someone because you don't like the way they dress...fine. Keep on judging...but know this, the same judgement that you judge with, you too will be judged by. Take those words as they are...

The Church, for too long, has been walking around condemning everything and everyone under the sun...except themselves. And that, according to the Bible, is the wrong way of being the Body of Christ.

Matthe 7:1-5

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

[Justaned]

So now you are saying it is not ok to judge someone by their appearance and how they dress? You have spent the last several pages of this thread telling us how normal and ok it is to judge someone by the clothes they wear.

You remind me of a church I once knew of in a small town I lived in. Two teenage girls decided to go to church, but they were not wearing nice dresses, they were wearing jeans (oh my God!!! Not jeans on a woman!!!). One of the ushers stopped them at the door, told them to go home, clean themselves up, then they can come back to church. Well, they left, but they instead went drinking and partying. Afterall, the church didn't want them (even though one of the great hymns is "Just As I Am", right?). They died that night in an automobile accident. Not long after that, the church completely fell apart.

I personally feel that this "old school holiness" is one of the major contributing factors in the decline of Christianity. When the Church is more focused on keeping the sinner out of "their" church (because of the sinners sin), instead of reaching out to the those sinners...well, no wonder the sinners will continue to go to the bars instead of to the churches.

You all realize that Jesus did not come to condemn the world, right? If He didn't come to condemn the world, but rather to save it...what gives you the right (old school holiness or whatever you choose to say to justify your stupid judgemental position) to condemn. It is not your right to condemn, but rather to love. It isn't even your job to convict of sin. That is the Holy Spirit's work, not yours. You want to continue to judge someone because you don't like the way they dress...fine. Keep on judging...but know this, the same judgement that you judge with, you too will be judged by. Take those words as they are...

The Church, for too long, has been walking around condemning everything and everyone under the sun...except themselves. And that, according to the Bible, is the wrong way of being the Body of Christ.

Matthe 7:1-5

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

No I am not saying we can't judge on appearance because it is human nature to do. What is wrong is to make arbitrary and unloving decisions based on dress, such as not permitting someone entrance to church.

Example a streetwalker comes to church looking like a streetwalker. They get saved but refuse to change their dress after years of Christianity. Do you not suspect their motive?

Example a bum comes to church looking like a bum, he gets saved gets a job but refuses to take off his bum clothing do you not suspect their motive?

When Jesus saw the blind man on his way from Jericho, he called to him and the first thing the blind man did was removed his begging clothes because he knew he was not going to be a beggar any longer. If he had kept them on would we not suspect his motive?

If someone claims to be Christian but dresses in a manner that they know will evoke reaction, should we not question their motive when they get a reaction and act like it is unjust?

Would we not react to guy that shows up every Sunday dressed in a full tuxedo? Would we not question is action? Why is doing this? Why does he seemingly need the attention.

If Rocky's dress was not abnormal we would not be having this discussion. And if we all dressed like Rocky does now he would probably want to dress another way. That is his decision and people's reaction is normal reaction to someone that dresses different.