Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Tithers are Better Off!

[bibleman]

AMEN REVEREND DAKE

Hi davido,

You said above: "Too report Dake preaches tithng is not true."

You my friend are mistaken and highly ignorant to what Dake taught and how Dake lived personally.

To those who will honor God with the tithes and offerings, not because they want blessings, but because it is right to do it God has promised, “I will open to you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it” (Mal. 3:9-11). If anyone argues that this was for Israel only, we answer, it is also for the Church according to Mt. 6:26-33; 10:29; Lk. 6:38; 2 Cor. 9:6-12; Phil. 4:19; 3 Jn. 2. This last passage expresses the will of God for Christians: “Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.”Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 109.

Amen brother Billy,

You being gone on... yet speaketh!

How many other things of the OT are still binding on those dead to the Law?
It is written..."For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God." (Gal 2:19)

How about Thou Shalt NOT Kill?

That sounds pretty good.
How about feast keeping?
Limitations on Sabbath travel?
Eating pork?
Entering a Gentile's home?

NOPE ONLY those commands that are brought over into the NT are valid for today.

Jesus is the one who brought tithing into the NT as is found in Matthew 23:23.

[Hill Top]

AMEN REVEREND DAKE

Hi davido,

You said above: "Too report Dake preaches tithng is not true."

You my friend are mistaken and highly ignorant to what Dake taught and how Dake lived personally.

Amen brother Billy,

You being gone on... yet speaketh!

How many other things of the OT are still binding on those dead to the Law?
It is written..."For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God." (Gal 2:19)

How about Thou Shalt NOT Kill?

That sounds pretty good.
How about feast keeping?
Limitations on Sabbath travel?
Eating pork?
Entering a Gentile's home?

NOPE ONLY those commands that are brought over into the NT are valid for today.

Jesus is the one who brought tithing into the NT as is found in Matthew 23:23.

Then YOU had better keep tithing.

[bibleman]

AMEN REVEREND DAKE

Amen brother Billy,

You being gone on... yet speaketh!

How many other things of the OT are still binding on those dead to the Law?
It is written..."For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God." (Gal 2:19)

How about Thou Shalt NOT Kill?

That sounds pretty good.
How about feast keeping?
Limitations on Sabbath travel?
Eating pork?
Entering a Gentile's home?

NOPE ONLY those commands that are brought over into the NT are valid for today.

Jesus is the one who brought tithing into the NT as is found in Matthew 23:23.

Then YOU had better keep tithing.

I have tithed every dollar I have ever made or was given to me, since I was 14 years old...

And I have been so blessed, no one could pay me enough money... to get me to quit tithing!

[Grandfather]

Are tither’s better off because they tithe?
Or do they tithe because they are in a better financial situation and thus have disposable income that allows them to tithe?

If you say, they have been “blessed” because they are tithers, or “cursed” because they don’t. Would you please provide factual evidence to support your position? Remember, the correlation is not causation.

[bibleman]

Are tither’s better off because they tithe?
Or do they tithe because they are in a better financial situation and thus have disposable income that allows them to tithe?

If you say, they have been “blessed” because they are tithers, or “cursed” because they don’t. Would you please provide factual evidence to support your position? Remember, the correlation is not causation.

I believe tithers are better off because they tithe.

Notice Malachi 3:10 which states the many blessings of the tither: open windows, poured out blessing, devourer rebuked, etc.

Malachi 3:10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
11 “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” Says the LORD of hosts;
12 And all nations will call you blessed, For you will be a delightful land,” Says the LORD of hosts.

In addition in the NT we see that the principle of giving is blessing as well.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

And personally while I am not rich I am blessed, having tithed every dollar I have ever made since I was 14 years old. Truly God is good and always fulfills His Word.

[Grandfather]

Are tither’s better off because they tithe?
Or do they tithe because they are in a better financial situation and thus have disposable income that allows them to tithe?

If you say, they have been “blessed” because they are tithers, or “cursed” because they don’t. Would you please provide factual evidence to support your position? Remember, the correlation is not causation.

I believe tithers are better off because they tithe.

Notice Malachi 3:10 which states the many blessings of the tither: open windows, poured out blessing, devourer rebuked, etc.

Malachi 3:10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
11 “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” Says the LORD of hosts;
12 And all nations will call you blessed, For you will be a delightful land,” Says the LORD of hosts.

In addition in the NT we see that the principle of giving is blessing as well.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

And personally while I am not rich I am blessed, having tithed every dollar I have ever made since I was 14 years old. Truly God is good and always fulfills His Word.

Well, if we are talking about opinions (tithers are better off I believe…) then everyone is entitled to their opinion
And I will agree the GIVING is alway a blessing, but will add it says GIVING, tithes are PAID not given. (See that wonderful. passage you often quote in Matt 23:23 ….you pay tithes of…) so tithing would not qualify as giving

[bibleman]

Are tither’s better off because they tithe?
Or do they tithe because they are in a better financial situation and thus have disposable income that allows them to tithe?

If you say, they have been “blessed” because they are tithers, or “cursed” because they don’t. Would you please provide factual evidence to support your position? Remember, the correlation is not causation.

I believe tithers are better off because they tithe.

Notice Malachi 3:10 which states the many blessings of the tither: open windows, poured out blessing, devourer rebuked, etc.

Malachi 3:10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
11 “And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” Says the LORD of hosts;
12 And all nations will call you blessed, For you will be a delightful land,” Says the LORD of hosts.

In addition in the NT we see that the principle of giving is blessing as well.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

And personally while I am not rich I am blessed, having tithed every dollar I have ever made since I was 14 years old. Truly God is good and always fulfills His Word.

Well, if we are talking about opinions (tithers are better off I believe…) then everyone is entitled to their opinion
And I will agree the GIVING is alway a blessing, but will add it says GIVING, tithes are PAID not given. (See that wonderful. passage you often quote in Matt 23:23 ….you pay tithes of…) so tithing would not qualify as giving

Glad we agree that tithers are better off than non-tithers.

Well I have stated what I believe about tithing "helping to produce" this being better-off-ness!

How about you do you think the act of tithing has specific blessings that cause the better-off-ness?

Here is a pastor on sermon central that sure thinks so.

3. Starting poor but honoring God. Someone says that tithing is only for the rich. But we have never heard of a rich man or women commencing tithing, but we can name scores who began to tithe when they were poor and then became rich:

Mr. Crowell - founder of Quaker Oats Co.
Mr. Colgate- founder of Colgate Soaps, etc
Mr. Proctor of Ivory soap fame
Mr. Matthias Baldwin of Baldwin Locomotive Industry
R.G. Le Tourneau – founder of a large earth moving business
John D Rockefeller Sr. – multimillionaire
Richard Devos – Founder of Amway

From a sermon by Michael McCartney, Preach This: The difference between tithes and offering? 11/30/2009
https://www.sermoncentral.com/sermon-il ... on-central

[Grandfather]

I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.

[bibleman]

I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.

Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"

[Grandfather]

I didn’t say tither’s were better off. I said you are entitled to your opinion.

I think Mark Zuckerburg, Jeff Bezos to name a few are very well off. And I haven’t seen anything to suggest they tithe.

Well rather than keeping us all guessing... tell us: "Are Christian tithers better off that Christian non-tithers?"

I have no idea, how do you define “better off?”

What I do know is this, if the number of people that say they tithe actually tithed, the church might be a better place.