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HEY PASTOR VW
I LIKED MUCH OF WHAT HE SAID 30 YEARS AGO.HE WAS DIFFERENT THEN.AND I WONT BADMOUTH HIM NOW.MY LATE PASTOR MET HIM THEN.IN THE LATE 1970'S.
MY PASTOR RESPECTED THOSE GUYS ESPECIALLY DAD HAGIN.HE REALLY LOVED HIM.HE LIKED HIS TOP DISCIPLE KEN COPELAND TOO.
BUT MY REVEREND PREACHED HARD ON MANY AREAS THESE MEN DID NOT.
HE THOUGHT REVEREND ERNEST ANGLEY WAS THE BEST.THE LORD SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT HIM.HE NEVER TOLD ME WHAT HE SAID -I WAS FRIENDS WITH HIS 2 SONS THEN ....BUT HE TOLD US TO RESPECT HIM VERY HIGHLY.
AND HE WORKED ON THE MISSION FIELD WITH MORRIS CERULLO AND DR.ALEX NESS.


IF IT WORKS IN EVERY CASE DO YOU REALLY WANT ME TO GO THERE?????


victoryword wrote:
branham1965 wrote:then that should work in every single case right?????

DOES IT???? DONT ANSWER.YOU KNOW IT DOESNT.
Billy, do you really love the Fred Price classics on TBN? Or does James 1:8 apply here? :silly:


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THIS FIELD IS NOT EVEN.SO I MUST KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT HERE.
bibleman wrote:
victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
That is one of the reasons I like Dake so much. Dake believes the Word of God and is bold enough to say it.

Even if Billy and Ed don't believe the Word then that does not change a thing!

If it is in God's Word, I believe and I do my best to live and practice it!


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I THINK ITS UNFAIR TO SAY THAT.I THINK REVED LIKES REVEREND DAKE.DR.KENYON NO.
AS FOR ME NEEDING ALOT OF PRAYER I CERTAINLY DO.MY FAMILY AND I WE REALLY DO.
victoryword wrote:
bibleman wrote:
victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
That is one of the reasons I like Dake so much. Dake believes the Word of God and is bold enough to say it.

Even if Billy and Ed don't believe the Word then that does not change a thing!

If it is in God's Word, I believe and I do my best to live and practice it!
Well Bibleman, Ed is here to straighten us out. When we join his "Word of Unbelief" movement then he will be happy since he's so jealous of Dake and Kenyon. Billy, well, Billy just needs a whole lotta prayer. Ain't dat rat Billy?


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THIS IS OFF.WAY OFF.

REVED IS MY LONGTIME FRIEND.HE WAS GETTING JUMPED OFF ON.THATS MY VIEW.AND IM NOT GOING TO TURN MY BACK ON THAT.
I HAVE HIS BACK.PERIOD.


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Billy old mate, don't get offended with what i am about to state.

Anyone that uses experience to rightly divide the word of God is doomed to failure.....

Letting the world dictate what we put our faith in is stupid and a slap in the face of God.

We may as well say and teach that because so and so did not get saved, then that means salvation is not for everyone.

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YOU ARE RIGHT MACCA.I HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND AM DOING THAT NOW.ABOUT MY SISTER AND OTHER THINGS.
YOU HELPED ME MACCA.THANK YOU. :agrue: :agrue:
macca wrote:Billy old mate, don't get offended with what i am about to state.

Anyone that uses experience to rightly divide the word of God is doomed to failure.....

Letting the world dictate what we put our faith in is stupid and a slap in the face of God.

We may as well say and teach that because so and so did not get saved, then that means salvation is not for everyone.

macca


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:scatter: that is me agreeing with Macca. :angel: :angel:


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victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:
victoryword wrote:Justpained

You really MUST stop misquoting Scripture. It's embarrassing (for you of course, not me :mrgreen:)

James 1
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

How is my statement and quote of scripture a misquote? Your quote says if man lacks wisdom let him ask for it not doubting the God will give it. What does that have to do with trials that come our way?
Ed

If I have to explain it to you then you need to step down from the ministry and open a hotdog stand :mrgreen:
Yeah you do explain it to me.


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victoryword wrote:
bibleman wrote:
victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
That is one of the reasons I like Dake so much. Dake believes the Word of God and is bold enough to say it.

Even if Billy and Ed don't believe the Word then that does not change a thing!

If it is in God's Word, I believe and I do my best to live and practice it!
Well Bibleman, Ed is here to straighten us out. When we join his "Word of Unbelief" movement then he will be happy since he's so jealous of Dake and Kenyon. Billy, well, Billy just needs a whole lotta prayer. Ain't dat rat Billy?
Who said anything about unbelief unless it is unbelief in some man's pipe dream?


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Re: Finis Dake on Positive Confession

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victoryword wrote:+lol

Still waiting for you to explain that to me. If you can.
I certainly would love to hear your explanation.


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