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That is not the truth. Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies represent dark (demonic) beings that are un-dead immortals.
They are not harmless superstitions as such.
I am sorry I was not aware that Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies were real. So how can they be "demonic"? or perhaps I didn't see that in scripture :vamp:
Its really not good for children to dress up as witches, warlocks, living dead, and ghosts calling trick or treat? I know God does not approve of these things. Satan approves these things and has promoted this evil fun world wide
Ok what does a witch look like? Again you are using Hollywoods definition of a witch. I know and have seen those that practice real witchcraft, most look pretty normal. Are you saying that the witch in the wizard of oz is what real witches look like? Do you see you are Judging by a fictitious version of these things. Ed is doing this as well, Yes I agree witchcraft is real and demonic, but not the one on the broomstick with the hook nose.



I guess I just think a lot different then most Christians on this. I think its just superstitions and Hollywood that has told you guys what is evil :robot: , but even as a kid I never was afraid of the boogie man and never slept with the light on. To me its just tongue and cheek humor, that is what Halloween is about to me. But yes I am going trick or treating with my little demonic kids and their evil costumes, Boo! watch out the devil is in them fake vampire teeth. Hey, might even witness to a few evil people that are out trick or treating too while I am out .. lol. To me it just seems like we as Christians find the wrong things taboo because we are so judgmental, and afraid of things that are not really Evil. I don't know its a little silly to me. But I am not very religious either, I am Christian..


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Re: Halloween

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stick around here Rocky and you will go batty.i sure have.

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Rocky wrote:
That is not the truth. Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies represent dark (demonic) beings that are un-dead immortals.
They are not harmless superstitions as such.
I am sorry I was not aware that Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies were real. So how can they be "demonic"? or perhaps I didn't see that in scripture :vamp:
I didn't say they were real I said they represent dark and demonic things we know little of.
Rocky wrote:
Its really not good for children to dress up as witches, warlocks, living dead, and ghosts calling trick or treat? I know God does not approve of these things. Satan approves these things and has promoted this evil fun world wide
Ok what does a witch look like? Again you are using Hollywoods definition of a witch. I know and have seen those that practice real witchcraft, most look pretty normal. Are you saying that the witch in the wizard of oz is what real witches look like? Do you see you are Judging by a fictitious version of these things. Ed is doing this as well, Yes I agree witchcraft is real and demonic, but not the one on the broomstick with the hook nose.
I didn't say anything about witches but who ever did I totally agree with. You don't have to look like a witch to represent one and that is what the character with the pitched hat, broomstick and hook nose is doing.
Again I believe Satan manufactured those popular caricatures in an attempt to desensitized us to the realities of the Satan's dark side.

Rocky wrote: I guess I just think a lot different then most Christians on this. I think its just superstitions and Hollywood that has told you guys what is evil :robot: , but even as a kid I never was afraid of the boogie man and never slept with the light on. To me its just tongue and cheek humor, that is what Halloween is about to me. But yes I am going trick or treating with my little demonic kids and their evil costumes, Boo! watch out the devil is in them fake vampire teeth. Hey, might even witness to a few evil people that are out trick or treating too while I am out .. lol. To me it just seems like we as Christians find the wrong things taboo because we are so judgmental, and afraid of things that are not really Evil. I don't know its a little silly to me. But I am not very religious either, I am Christian..
Rocky
I think you are deceived, you have been convinced that this is all harmless when in fact it isn't. Why the need to dress your kids up as vampires, zombies and werewolves? Why can't they be clowns, buz lightyear or woody? Why do you want them to associate themselves with creatures that live on human blood, transform in murder machines or creatures that have lost their soul and are trapped between life and death? Is that what you want your kids to relate to? To think about?


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Re: Halloween

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branham1965 wrote:do you have halloween down under???

do you hand out candy to the kiddies????

or are your pockets too deep. :mrgreen:
"do you have halloween down under???"
.

Yes, unfortunately we do!
" do you hand out candy to the kiddies????"
.

NO I DO NOT!

Have you heard about the bush fires raging all over down under, happening now, while we speak, been burning all last week creating havoc, lives have been lost, five thousand hectares of prime land and forrest have been destroyed, hundreds of homes also have been lost?

An 8 year old child lit two big ones not far from my home!

One fire he lit was found and put out. The second burnt out thousands of acres of property, destroyed homes, closed our major highways, closed the airport, thousands of homes are still to this day without power, its a miricle no one lost their lives locally? Some lost their lives in other areas.

This demon child was caught, he attended court, he was let off, he was granted bail to be in the custody and supervision of his MOMMEY now while waiting to attend court in one month. He was under the supervision of his father when he lit these fires. It has been revealed today that no charges can be layed on this little arsonist because this little darling is too young to be charged!

Upon leaving court he brazenly flipped the bird to reporters and on lookers outside court, AND SO DID HIS FATHER!! Hows that for an example to set ones son?

This BRATT, was on bail for assult causing grevious bodily harm, and was suspended from school! He assulted teachers and children there! teachers said he lit fires in the rubbish bins at the school????????????

What was he doing while suspended for assult and causing grevious bodily harm and whilst in the care of his FATHER?

Lighting BUSH FIRES, destroying property, putting innocent peoples lives in danger!!!

He said in court; "I didn't do it, my mates did?

I BET THIS LITTLE DEMON OF SATAN WILL ROAM THE STREETS ON HALLOWEEN TRICK OR TREATING. He is back home! mommy and daddy are probably off their faces as usual, down the pub or smoking grass? Trick or treat mister? or I will come back tonight and Burn down your home!!


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Dear Lord Haz.i was teasing a bit.i never knew that. :agrue:
Ironman wrote:
branham1965 wrote:do you have halloween down under???

do you hand out candy to the kiddies????

or are your pockets too deep. :mrgreen:
"do you have halloween down under???"
.

Yes, unfortunately we do!
" do you hand out candy to the kiddies????"
.

NO I DO NOT!

Have you heard about the bush fires raging all over down under, happening now, while we speak, been burning all last week creating havoc, lives have been lost, hundreds of homes have been destroyed?

An 8 year old child lit two big ones near my home! One fire he lit burnt out thousands of acres of property, destroyed homes, closed our major highways, closed the airport, thousands of homes still without power, its a miricle no one lost their lives?

This child was caught, attended court, was let off, was granted bail to be in the supervision of his MOMMEY now while waiting to attend court in one month. He was under the supervision of his father when he lit these fires. It has been revealed today that no charges can be layed because this little darling is too young!

He flipped the bird to reporters and on lookers outside court, AND SO DID HIS FATHER!!

This BRATT, was on bail for assult causing grevious bodily harm, and was suspended from school! He assulted teachers and children there! teachers said he lit fires in the rubbish bins at the school????????????

What was he doing while suspended for assult and causing grevious bodily harm and whilst in the care of his FATHER?

Lighting BUSH FIRES, destroying property, putting innocent peoples lives in danger!!!

He said in court; "I didn't do it, my mates did?

I BET THIS LITTLE DEMON OF SATAN WILL ROAM THE STREETS ON HALLOWEEN TRICK OR TREATING. He is back home! mommy and daddy are probably off their faces as usual, down the pub or smoking grass? Trick or treat mister? or I will come back tonight and Burn down your home!!


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that fellow that publishes all those kjv only books...he has a tract showing in the tribulation period....
in his tract is a werewolf looking creature killing a poor soul.i saw it and thought...no cant be.this thing looked like a monster from the Howling movie.a very scary film from the early mid 1980's.
im now wondering if these creatures are real.
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Rocky wrote:
That is not the truth. Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies represent dark (demonic) beings that are un-dead immortals.
They are not harmless superstitions as such.
I am sorry I was not aware that Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies were real. So how can they be "demonic"? or perhaps I didn't see that in scripture :vamp:
Its really not good for children to dress up as witches, warlocks, living dead, and ghosts calling trick or treat? I know God does not approve of these things. Satan approves these things and has promoted this evil fun world wide
Ok what does a witch look like? Again you are using Hollywoods definition of a witch. I know and have seen those that practice real witchcraft, most look pretty normal. Are you saying that the witch in the wizard of oz is what real witches look like? Do you see you are Judging by a fictitious version of these things. Ed is doing this as well, Yes I agree witchcraft is real and demonic, but not the one on the broomstick with the hook nose.



I guess I just think a lot different then most Christians on this. I think its just superstitions and Hollywood that has told you guys what is evil :robot: , but even as a kid I never was afraid of the boogie man and never slept with the light on. To me its just tongue and cheek humor, that is what Halloween is about to me. But yes I am going trick or treating with my little demonic kids and their evil costumes, Boo! watch out the devil is in them fake vampire teeth. Hey, might even witness to a few evil people that are out trick or treating too while I am out .. lol. To me it just seems like we as Christians find the wrong things taboo because we are so judgmental, and afraid of things that are not really Evil. I don't know its a little silly to me. But I am not very religious either, I am Christian..


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Bats, Bats bats everywhere, haz when i was drilling at Bulga the no 4 drill would start drilling all by itself,? :shocked!:
I called up Rowdy to come down and check it out and he rekoned i was nuts. ha :mrgreen:
But every time the drill started turning a bunch of bats were flying around the drill? :crazyeyes:
bats are evil :evilbat:

macca


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Re: Halloween

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branham1965 wrote:that fellow that publishes all those kjv only books...he has a tract showing in the tribulation period....
in his tract is a werewolf looking creature killing a poor soul.i saw it and thought...no cant be.this thing looked like a monster from the Howling movie.a very scary film from the early mid 1980's.
im now wondering if these creatures are real.
+wink2



Rocky wrote:
That is not the truth. Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies represent dark (demonic) beings that are un-dead immortals.
They are not harmless superstitions as such.
I am sorry I was not aware that Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies were real. So how can they be "demonic"? or perhaps I didn't see that in scripture :vamp:
Its really not good for children to dress up as witches, warlocks, living dead, and ghosts calling trick or treat? I know God does not approve of these things. Satan approves these things and has promoted this evil fun world wide
Ok what does a witch look like? Again you are using Hollywoods definition of a witch. I know and have seen those that practice real witchcraft, most look pretty normal. Are you saying that the witch in the wizard of oz is what real witches look like? Do you see you are Judging by a fictitious version of these things. Ed is doing this as well, Yes I agree witchcraft is real and demonic, but not the one on the broomstick with the hook nose.



I guess I just think a lot different then most Christians on this. I think its just superstitions and Hollywood that has told you guys what is evil :robot: , but even as a kid I never was afraid of the boogie man and never slept with the light on. To me its just tongue and cheek humor, that is what Halloween is about to me. But yes I am going trick or treating with my little demonic kids and their evil costumes, Boo! watch out the devil is in them fake vampire teeth. Hey, might even witness to a few evil people that are out trick or treating too while I am out .. lol. To me it just seems like we as Christians find the wrong things taboo because we are so judgmental, and afraid of things that are not really Evil. I don't know its a little silly to me. But I am not very religious either, I am Christian..
Someone once said that the demonic figures that decorate Buddhist temples and such were creatures that were visualized by people that first rendered what they looked like. I don't know if it was drug induced or if they actually saw these beast but I suspect from time to time people have been given glimpses of demonic beings. Since Satan thrives on distortion and convolution should it surprise us that demons appearance appear to us as distorted creatures of evil?

But the biggest premise in all of this is their seemingly eternal life. Humans have always looked for the fountain of youth, the source of immortality. This is against scripture that says we are all to die once in the book of Hebrews. I think this is part of the current fascination of such beings. Also it seems people like toying with the idea of anarchy and again these beings present that picture. Include in that their overwhelming power and their sexual prowess and you have recipe for a Hollywood success. Now add in a touch of benevolence and suddenly these creature can be viewed as not being so bad.

Hollywood did the same things with Homosexuals, you always see them portrayed a the perfect friend, the fun loving person in the crowd, the kind, gentle being, full of wisdom and cute remarks. You never see the real side of homosexuality portrayed when they commit sodomy and have deal with the filth of such acts or having instant sex in filthy bathrooms or rat infested alleys. They make homosexuals look good and that is the image many retain.

I think Satan has the same campaign for the demonic realities of the spirit realm. Vampires, Werewolves, and zombies are being portrayed as people innocently caught up it. People who retain the fiber of the goodness we all hope is in each of us. Soon we are rooting for undead instead of the evil human they are fighting against. The table have been reversed.

End result we think nothing of dressing our kids up as such creatures. What message does that send to a child?
Is that honoring God?


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Vampires, Werewolves, and zombies aren't real. Demon spirits are, and I do not think that demons are Vampires, Werewolves, and zombies. I guess we just agree to disagree, like on a lot of things lol. I think people are superstitious and Christian are the worst for it. I have heard of Christian not even buying Count Chocula cereal, not buying hot sauce with a red devil on it, to me those are the deceived ones. Its evil because of Hollywood and secular literature, not from a biblical perspective, again it is total superstition and fear, to me its just man made laws and rules, you now touch not, taste not handle not, legalism crowed. I believe to sum this up, Halloween is wrong in certain context, like the way real wiccans practice it, like if I were actually a pagan and believed in this stuff. December 25 use to be a pagan holiday as well, but in certain context its not wrong to celebrate it unless you are a pagan, same as Easter. My son wants to be count Dracula you know like on sesame street. If one does not want to hand out candy on this day because they believe it is evil fine no problem, but if one thinks its ok that's fine too, like 'I said to me it is a meats offered to idols thing to. And personal convictions should never be the final say unless something is specifically defined as wrong in the bible.I believe God is more concerned how much love you show then all of this stuff any way.. I just thaught this was only in the closed minded south, But I guess the all loving church is every were :crazyeyes:< that was sarcasm sorry..


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Rocky wrote:Vampires, Werewolves, and zombies aren't real. Demon spirits are, and I do not think that demons are Vampires, Werewolves, and zombies. I guess we just agree to disagree, like on a lot of things lol. I think people are superstitious and Christian are the worst for it. I have heard of Christian not even buying Count Chocula cereal, not buying hot sauce with a red devil on it, to me those are the deceived ones. Its evil because of Hollywood and secular literature, not from a biblical perspective, again it is total superstition and fear, to me its just man made laws and rules, you now touch not, taste not handle not, legalism crowed. I believe to sum this up, Halloween is wrong in certain context, like the way real wiccans practice it, like if I were actually a pagan and believed in this stuff. December 25 use to be a pagan holiday as well, but in certain context its not wrong to celebrate it unless you are a pagan, same as Easter. My son wants to be count Dracula you know like on sesame street. If one does not want to hand out candy on this day because they believe it is evil fine no problem, but if one thinks its ok that's fine too, like 'I said to me it is a meats offered to idols thing to. And personal convictions should never be the final say unless something is specifically defined as wrong in the bible.I believe God is more concerned how much love you show then all of this stuff any way.. I just thaught this was only in the closed minded south, But I guess the all loving church is every were :crazyeyes:< that was sarcasm sorry..
I don't think vampires, werewolves and zombies are real either. But I do think they are representative of things that are real in the spiritual world.

But they do have some connection to reality. There are many confirmed diagnosed cases of vampires where what I consider demon possessed people drank human blood. Likewise cases of people that attacked, killed and tore and ate flesh of human victims are known to have happened. Zombies come from pagan religion of VOODOO and there are known cases of people in a catatonic states that have done the bidding of their Voodoo masters. Usually this is drug induced but the question must be asked did the drug do it or did it open a door for a demon to enter.

Most pagan religions have rumors, superstitions, symbols that they attach to the power other than from God or the Holy Spirit. Santeria often uses chickens in their rituals. Does that mean dressing up as chicken champions Santeria? No I don't think so. Why because Chickens are know as animals, used for food, pets and etc.

However Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies are always associated with evil and powers not of God.

I have no fear of Vampires, Werewolves and Zombies but I have no reason to even fantasize about them since they represent a lifestyle and possess traits that are counter what a Christian should seek or mediate on.

Having ministered to people that were oppressed by being held in fear of such beings before they were saved I know the evil they represent. One thing we forget Satan does have power and will allow his followers to exhibit and display that power.

What should a person from Caribbean island think when they see their Christian neighbor dress their child up in a costume of a creature that was used to control them by the power of fear and of things that happen in the darkness?


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