Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Finis Dake on Positive Confession

[Rocky]

I don't know what your five year old might understand of your theology but I would make sure he was in church so he can be taught Christian Theology.

Nice little cheap shot there about my kid and what my kids are being taught there Ed. My kids are being taught the bible. So I would like it if you would keep anything about my kids out of you mouth thank you. And I don't think as others would agree that you are in no place to talk about ones theology. You resorted to a lot of things when discussing or debating with me, you always do this, this is a new low for you. What's next Ed want to discuss my appearance again? Now I like to debate and discuss, But I believe you need to learn how to because you act like a little kid when you are disagreed with.

Rocky

It was not a cheap shot it was one you handed me. However since you find it objectionable I will retract it. As far as your appearance (which you keep bringing up) you are the one that brought it up first and I offered my comments. I said when people dress for reaction they often get a reaction. Do you think people would react to a couple that shows up with the man always in tuxedo and the woman in a ball gown? So why the surprise, the disbelief, indignity?
I'm sorry if that offends you but truth is truth and fact is fact.


I don't have a problem discussing theology as long as you don't try to invalidate my position by suggesting even a 5 year old knows better. Or equating it with heresy, or one of the many other things you have said. If you want to discuss/debate produce evidence of your position. If I dismiss that evidence as something other than valid don't resort to insults or name calling as you have in the past.

I think we have discussed this subject as much as useful. You refuse to consider my point and I have researched your point and found it wanting. So what is left to say?

Well your comment was just out of line so I just thought I would call you out on it. But I am use to dealing with forum trolls. Just learn how to debate points, just saying. You just have a bad disposition on here you may not be like that in real life, but on here you kind of come across as a pompous individual. You get very contentious and combative when you are disagreed with. But at least you make this place interesting I will give you that.

Rocky
Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old. You are this quote personified.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

Ed this is the pot calling the kettle black. Do you really want me to display your past replies I have seen on this forum? You attack others and belittle them, then you cry faul when some one calls you out on it. So to quote you "your problem not mine"..

[macca]

Hi Leon,

You said;

Does everyone agree with Dake? Does everyone agree with the Biblical text?

Now this is a "Bible" discussion board as you have told me several times in the past, why is it more important that everyone agrees with Dake, seeing that you put Dake first and the Bible second?

Scott, personally I have a difficult time understanding why Bibleman's question would appear as if he wants everyone to agree with Dake more than the Bible. I don't see that at all in his quote. Since people were having a debate over a specific doctrinal issue and both were using Scripture (one side erroneously) then there is nothing wrong with asking if anyone agrees with Finis Dake's perspective of this. After all this is a DAKE Bible discussion board.

Most of the people who come here claim to have utmost respect for Dake's teachings which is why they come here. Therefore, if one cannot reference Dake on a "Dake" discussion board without being accused of making what Dake says more authoritative than Scripture, then something is wrong.

V,

Obviously you did not read my response to Leon, if you had you would have never asked this. I was simply asking why Dake was put ahead of Scripture/Bible. This is not an isolated case, Leon does this most of the time. I have respect for Dake, but do not equate Dake and his theology with Scripture. I tend to let Scripture interpret Scripture, and while I certainly find study Bibles, commentaries, and other aids useful, they are only tools and not Scripture. This is not only a Dake Board, if you read the name it is a Bible Discussion board, A Board devoted to the study of God's Word in Honor of Finis J. Dake. Of course people would quote Dake, but Dake is not the same as the Bible,(( like any human, Dake's theology is not perfect, neither is mine, Leon's, Ed's or yours.[/quote]))



So! we can not trust anyone to tell us the truth..
Tell me Scott, was paul's theology correct?

macca

Well, that depends, if you believe that the Bible is the infallible Word of God and the authors were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write it, then yes Paul's theology was correct, although I would not say Paul thought it up all by himself, but was given the knowledge by the Holy Spirit. This what I believe. Now do I consider the writing of Luther, Calvin, Wesley, Dake or any other person to be the infallible Word of God, no.

Do I think that Dake, Leon, Ed, VW, or myself are being untruthful on purpose, no. Can anynone of them be in error but not realize it, sure. Who shpuld one trust, well that is a personal decision.

Thanks Scott,

macca

[victoryword]

Vdub,

I think your first sentence sums it up perfectly. Their have been exchanges on this subject before, some public and some private. I happen to like Leon, although he may not think so. As I said before, since this board is in honor of Dake, one should expect quotes from his writings, no where did I even hint that one should not. As to Leon being able to show where Dake is misunderstood, no one including myself have ever said otherwise, so I don't understand the point of you final paragraph?

Scott

I appreciate the response. My issue was that I felt that you were accusing Pastor Bible of placing Dake above the Word of God which I did not feel that he was doing. However, You and I agree for the most part concerning the quotes of Dake on a discussion forum named after him so I will butt out and let you and Pastor Bible work out any issues between you.

[bibleman]

Vdub,

I think your first sentence sums it up perfectly. Their have been exchanges on this subject before, some public and some private. I happen to like Leon, although he may not think so. As I said before, since this board is in honor of Dake, one should expect quotes from his writings, no where did I even hint that one should not. As to Leon being able to show where Dake is misunderstood, no one including myself have ever said otherwise, so I don't understand the point of you final paragraph?

Scott

I appreciate the response. My issue was that I felt that you were accusing Pastor Bible of placing Dake above the Word of God which I did not feel that he was doing. However, You and I agree for the most part concerning the quotes of Dake on a discussion forum named after him so I will butt out and let you and Pastor Bible work out any issues between you.

Hey and I like Scott TOO - and Ed!

Now of course we disagree on some things but it is just fun picking at each other. I have this fault of liking to irritate people.

I have found that for the most part those who disagree on this board... would be very friendly in person, face to face!

Now they are not WOF like Me, Chris, and you Troy are... but they do love the Lord and I think there is help for for them! And I am just the person to bring out the best in them! (BIG SMILE)

[victoryword]

Hey and I like Scott TOO - and Ed!

Now of course we disagree on some things but it is just fun picking at each other. I have this fault of liking to irritate people.

I have found that for the most part those who disagree on this board... would be very friendly in person, face to face!

Now they are not WOF like Me, Chris, and you Troy are... but they do love the Lord and I think there is help for for them! And I am just the person to bring out the best in them! (BIG SMILE)

Anybody who can win help the whole state of South Carolina become the number kind state has a better chance of helping the non-wofers than us Rhode Islanders

[branham1965]

REVEREND ERNEST WINSTON ANGLEY IS NOT NOT NOT WOF.NOT AT ALL.IM CURIOUS WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM...FACE TO FACE????????

Vdub,

I think your first sentence sums it up perfectly. Their have been exchanges on this subject before, some public and some private. I happen to like Leon, although he may not think so. As I said before, since this board is in honor of Dake, one should expect quotes from his writings, no where did I even hint that one should not. As to Leon being able to show where Dake is misunderstood, no one including myself have ever said otherwise, so I don't understand the point of you final paragraph?

Scott

I appreciate the response. My issue was that I felt that you were accusing Pastor Bible of placing Dake above the Word of God which I did not feel that he was doing. However, You and I agree for the most part concerning the quotes of Dake on a discussion forum named after him so I will butt out and let you and Pastor Bible work out any issues between you.

Hey and I like Scott TOO - and Ed!

Now of course we disagree on some things but it is just fun picking at each other. I have this fault of liking to irritate people.

I have found that for the most part those who disagree on this board... would be very friendly in person, face to face!

Now they are not WOF like Me, Chris, and you Troy are... but they do love the Lord and I think there is help for for them! And I am just the person to bring out the best in them! (BIG SMILE)

[Justaned]

I don't know what your five year old might understand of your theology but I would make sure he was in church so he can be taught Christian Theology.

Nice little cheap shot there about my kid and what my kids are being taught there Ed. My kids are being taught the bible. So I would like it if you would keep anything about my kids out of you mouth thank you. And I don't think as others would agree that you are in no place to talk about ones theology. You resorted to a lot of things when discussing or debating with me, you always do this, this is a new low for you. What's next Ed want to discuss my appearance again? Now I like to debate and discuss, But I believe you need to learn how to because you act like a little kid when you are disagreed with.

Rocky

It was not a cheap shot it was one you handed me. However since you find it objectionable I will retract it. As far as your appearance (which you keep bringing up) you are the one that brought it up first and I offered my comments. I said when people dress for reaction they often get a reaction. Do you think people would react to a couple that shows up with the man always in tuxedo and the woman in a ball gown? So why the surprise, the disbelief, indignity?
I'm sorry if that offends you but truth is truth and fact is fact.


I don't have a problem discussing theology as long as you don't try to invalidate my position by suggesting even a 5 year old knows better. Or equating it with heresy, or one of the many other things you have said. If you want to discuss/debate produce evidence of your position. If I dismiss that evidence as something other than valid don't resort to insults or name calling as you have in the past.

I think we have discussed this subject as much as useful. You refuse to consider my point and I have researched your point and found it wanting. So what is left to say?

Well your comment was just out of line so I just thought I would call you out on it. But I am use to dealing with forum trolls. Just learn how to debate points, just saying. You just have a bad disposition on here you may not be like that in real life, but on here you kind of come across as a pompous individual. You get very contentious and combative when you are disagreed with. But at least you make this place interesting I will give you that.

Rocky
Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old. You are this quote personified.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

Ed this is the pot calling the kettle black. Do you really want me to display your past replies I have seen on this forum? You attack others and belittle them, then you cry faul when some one calls you out on it. So to quote you "your problem not mine"..

Rocky
Again that is the pot calling the kettle back.

Yes show me once where I launched a first strike personal attack.

I have to my shame responded in kind to personal attacks but I don't recall initiating one. If you are aware of me doing this I would like to see where.

Better yet let me say.

If I ever launched a personal attack which was not in response to an attack on me first I was wrong.

I will go a step further and say I was also wrong of me to respond with a personal attack even if I felt I was wronged first. That is an un-Christ-like behavior that should not be found occurring between so called Christian brothers.

[Justaned]

I don't know what your five year old might understand of your theology but I would make sure he was in church so he can be taught Christian Theology.

Nice little cheap shot there about my kid and what my kids are being taught there Ed. My kids are being taught the bible. So I would like it if you would keep anything about my kids out of you mouth thank you. And I don't think as others would agree that you are in no place to talk about ones theology. You resorted to a lot of things when discussing or debating with me, you always do this, this is a new low for you. What's next Ed want to discuss my appearance again? Now I like to debate and discuss, But I believe you need to learn how to because you act like a little kid when you are disagreed with.

Rocky

It was not a cheap shot it was one you handed me. However since you find it objectionable I will retract it. As far as your appearance (which you keep bringing up) you are the one that brought it up first and I offered my comments. I said when people dress for reaction they often get a reaction. Do you think people would react to a couple that shows up with the man always in tuxedo and the woman in a ball gown? So why the surprise, the disbelief, indignity?
I'm sorry if that offends you but truth is truth and fact is fact.


I don't have a problem discussing theology as long as you don't try to invalidate my position by suggesting even a 5 year old knows better. Or equating it with heresy, or one of the many other things you have said. If you want to discuss/debate produce evidence of your position. If I dismiss that evidence as something other than valid don't resort to insults or name calling as you have in the past.

I think we have discussed this subject as much as useful. You refuse to consider my point and I have researched your point and found it wanting. So what is left to say?

Well your comment was just out of line so I just thought I would call you out on it. But I am use to dealing with forum trolls. Just learn how to debate points, just saying. You just have a bad disposition on here you may not be like that in real life, but on here you kind of come across as a pompous individual. You get very contentious and combative when you are disagreed with. But at least you make this place interesting I will give you that.

Rocky
Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old. You are this quote personified.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

Hi Ed,

Above you said: Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old.

You just did!

How so he did mention five year old in his last response in which I referred.

[bibleman]

I don't know what your five year old might understand of your theology but I would make sure he was in church so he can be taught Christian Theology.

Nice little cheap shot there about my kid and what my kids are being taught there Ed. My kids are being taught the bible. So I would like it if you would keep anything about my kids out of you mouth thank you. And I don't think as others would agree that you are in no place to talk about ones theology. You resorted to a lot of things when discussing or debating with me, you always do this, this is a new low for you. What's next Ed want to discuss my appearance again? Now I like to debate and discuss, But I believe you need to learn how to because you act like a little kid when you are disagreed with.

Rocky

It was not a cheap shot it was one you handed me. However since you find it objectionable I will retract it. As far as your appearance (which you keep bringing up) you are the one that brought it up first and I offered my comments. I said when people dress for reaction they often get a reaction. Do you think people would react to a couple that shows up with the man always in tuxedo and the woman in a ball gown? So why the surprise, the disbelief, indignity?
I'm sorry if that offends you but truth is truth and fact is fact.


I don't have a problem discussing theology as long as you don't try to invalidate my position by suggesting even a 5 year old knows better. Or equating it with heresy, or one of the many other things you have said. If you want to discuss/debate produce evidence of your position. If I dismiss that evidence as something other than valid don't resort to insults or name calling as you have in the past.

I think we have discussed this subject as much as useful. You refuse to consider my point and I have researched your point and found it wanting. So what is left to say?

Well your comment was just out of line so I just thought I would call you out on it. But I am use to dealing with forum trolls. Just learn how to debate points, just saying. You just have a bad disposition on here you may not be like that in real life, but on here you kind of come across as a pompous individual. You get very contentious and combative when you are disagreed with. But at least you make this place interesting I will give you that.

Rocky
Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old. You are this quote personified.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

Hi Ed,

Above you said: Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old.

You just did!

How so he did mention five year old in his last response in which I referred.

Hi ed,

Just read your sentence: Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you? But I have never equated your understanding to a 5 year old.

Note you said: Have you ever considered that is exactly how I perceive you?

How do you consider him?

Well as you say: your understanding to a 5 year old.

See?

[bibleman]

REVEREND ERNEST WINSTON ANGLEY IS NOT NOT NOT WOF.NOT AT ALL.IM CURIOUS WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM...FACE TO FACE????????

Vdub,

I think your first sentence sums it up perfectly. Their have been exchanges on this subject before, some public and some private. I happen to like Leon, although he may not think so. As I said before, since this board is in honor of Dake, one should expect quotes from his writings, no where did I even hint that one should not. As to Leon being able to show where Dake is misunderstood, no one including myself have ever said otherwise, so I don't understand the point of you final paragraph?

Scott

I appreciate the response. My issue was that I felt that you were accusing Pastor Bible of placing Dake above the Word of God which I did not feel that he was doing. However, You and I agree for the most part concerning the quotes of Dake on a discussion forum named after him so I will butt out and let you and Pastor Bible work out any issues between you.

Hey and I like Scott TOO - and Ed!

Now of course we disagree on some things but it is just fun picking at each other. I have this fault of liking to irritate people.

I have found that for the most part those who disagree on this board... would be very friendly in person, face to face!

Now they are not WOF like Me, Chris, and you Troy are... but they do love the Lord and I think there is help for for them! And I am just the person to bring out the best in them! (BIG SMILE)

Hi Billy,

Above you said: "REVEREND ERNEST WINSTON ANGLEY IS NOT NOT NOT WOF. NOT AT ALL. IM CURIOUS WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM...FACE TO FACE????????"

Well I have seen him face to face.

But to answer your question I would say. I love you ministry. I thank God for you. I have been so blessed by your tapes, books and television ministry. God bless you and thank you for bringing the Word to me that brought me my salvation! Your ministry has forever changed my life and the life of my family. I owe you a debt I can never repay....

That is just some of what I have said and would say.