Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Does everything happen for a reason?

[bibleman]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

[branham1965]

I dont know of ANY Pentecostals or Charismatics who are CALVINISTS. We are Arminians.


I know a few who left the Holy Ghost Baptism and the most holy PENTECOSTAL -CHARISMATIC Faith and foolishly decided they were smarter than God.

They no longer feel the need to speak in other tongues and badmouth the Power of God.

THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE.AND MOST DANGEROUS.

After the Apostles fell asleep and as the 2nd and 3rd Centuries came

1. FORM
2.TRADITION -RITUAL
AND 3.ANALOGY TOOK THE PLACE OF THE MIGHTY POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST.

[Justaned]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

[bibleman]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

Thanks, for the answer. Of course that means I am in control of killing the cat.

Who cares if God was surprised or not. You know know I have never heard teaching on God being surprised. Is that something you have dealt with in your own life or something?

[victoryword]

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

So much for a STRAIGHT answer

[branham1965]

If you accept my apologies Preacher why dont you EVER respond to my posts?

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

So much for a STRAIGHT answer

[Justaned]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

Thanks, for the answer. Of course that means I am in control of killing the cat.

Who cares if God was surprised or not. You know know I have never heard teaching on God being surprised. Is that something you have dealt with in your own life or something?

The surprised was implied when you said God didn't know when someone was going to die in a thread long pass.

Understand that when you set it in your heart to kill the cat, God knew it and could have stopped you.

I know according to evolutional theology God just wanted to see if you really did it or not. Thus the dead cat was a surprise.

Since God knows how disturbed you are none of this surprised God but God probably wondered why if you wanted rid of the cat you didn't simply feed it to something that could have used the protein and thus continued the circle of life that all evolutionist so hold dear.

[bibleman]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

Thanks, for the answer. Of course that means I am in control of killing the cat.

Who cares if God was surprised or not. You know know I have never heard teaching on God being surprised. Is that something you have dealt with in your own life or something?

The surprised was implied when you said God didn't know when someone was going to die in a thread long pass.

Understand that when you set it in your heart to kill the cat, God knew it and could have stopped you.

I know according to evolutional theology God just wanted to see if you really did it or not. Thus the dead cat was a surprise.

Since God knows how disturbed you are none of this surprised God but God probably wondered why if you wanted rid of the cat you didn't simply feed it to something that could have used the protein and thus continued the circle of life that all evolutionist so hold dear.

Hi Ed,

No surprise was implied by me. You may have read that into it from your mindset, but I never implied surprise.

Still NO answer. Who was in control of killing the cat me or God?

The fact that you are unable to answer... shows the fallacy of your wrongly concluding that God (controlled me) or (made me) kill the cat!

Warning the following 1 minute clip contains the killing of a cat!

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[Justaned]

So in your humble opinion is man in control of his own life or not?

No God has decided man is destined for eternal damnation unless man responses to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and accepts Christ as his Lord. If Christ is truly Lord of the man then Christ and not man is in control.
Either way God control man's destiny.

Evolutionist would tell us man is in control that God did not create us, that God has no control over us, that things happen per chance. But even nature testifies that is a lie, all of nature is controlled by God, even to when the flower dies and gives up it's seed for another to come next year.

OK - let's cut to the chase - no more mumbo jumbo!

If I kill my cat... did I control that action or did God Make ME (control me) to do it?

God or me - what is you answer?

God allowed you to use your judgment which is tainted by sin. God knew your heart and your action did not surprise him.

Thanks, for the answer. Of course that means I am in control of killing the cat.

Who cares if God was surprised or not. You know know I have never heard teaching on God being surprised. Is that something you have dealt with in your own life or something?

The surprised was implied when you said God didn't know when someone was going to die in a thread long pass.

Understand that when you set it in your heart to kill the cat, God knew it and could have stopped you.

I know according to evolutional theology God just wanted to see if you really did it or not. Thus the dead cat was a surprise.

Since God knows how disturbed you are none of this surprised God but God probably wondered why if you wanted rid of the cat you didn't simply feed it to something that could have used the protein and thus continued the circle of life that all evolutionist so hold dear.

Hi Ed,

No surprise was implied by me. You may have read that into it from your mindset, but I never implied surprise.

Still NO answer. Who was in control of killing the cat me or God?

The fact that you are unable to answer... shows the fallacy of your wrongly concluding that God (controlled me) or (made me) kill the cat!

I keep answering and you keep asking.
God had ultimate control but God allowed you to exercise your choice.
If God hadn't allowed you you could not have killed the cat.
Who actually killed the Cat? You did.
Who allowed you to do it? God.
Who could have stopped you? God

[bibleman]

I keep answering and you keep asking.
God had ultimate control but God allowed you to exercise your choice.
If God hadn't allowed you you could not have killed the cat.
Who actually killed the Cat? You did.
Who allowed you to do it? God.
Who could have stopped you? God

Thanks, I understand.

God is in control, but he gave me the power of choice which put me in control.

So I am in control of killing the cat and NOT God.

Thus God is NOT in control, I am.