Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Did Peter lose his salvation?

[bibleman]

I GIVE THE KNOCK OUT TO REVEREND BIBLE BECAUSE OF THIS POST.
ED IS VERY BULLISH AND TENACIOUS.IN FACT HE COULD MAKE MY UNCLE BUD AND MY EXFATHER IN LAW A MILITANT CAMPBELLITE LOOK LIKE A COUPLE PIKERS.

ED IS THROWING AND LANDING SOME GOOD BLOWS...LEON FEINTS BOBS WEAVES LEADS WITH WITH THE JAB AND THEN OVERHAND RIGHT ON THE CHIN FOLLOWS WITH THE LEFT HOOK DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!!!DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!!!!DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!!!!!...........

whew....

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[bibleman]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

[Justaned]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

[bibleman]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

What? What? What?

Attacking my salvation instead of addressing the Scripture?

What? Wasn't their some communist (that you love) who said something about that?

This radio interviewer reminds me of you Ed.

He is so closed to the truth and you can see it in his expressions - just totally turned off to the WORD.

At about 6:45 for the next minute or so - at least - you can see his turned off expressions!

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[branham1965]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

[Justaned]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

What? What? What?

Attacking my salvation instead of addressing the Scripture?

What? Wasn't their some communist (that you love) who said something about that?

Romans 6:6 (NASB)
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
That is either true or it is not. You either serve God or you serve sin no one can serve two masters. He will like one and hate the other. You tell me do you really believe a true Christian is someone the willfully and deliberately sins. Who is their master while they are doing this? How can they have two masters?

[branham1965]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

What? What? What?

Attacking my salvation instead of addressing the Scripture?

What? Wasn't their some communist (that you love) who said something about that?

Romans 6:6 (NASB)
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
That is either true or it is not. You either serve God or you serve sin no one can serve two masters. He will like one and hate the other. You tell me do you really believe a true Christian is someone the willfully and deliberately sins. Who is their master while they are doing this? How can they have two masters?

[bibleman]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

What? What? What?

Attacking my salvation instead of addressing the Scripture?

What? Wasn't their some communist (that you love) who said something about that?

Romans 6:6 (NASB)
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
That is either true or it is not. You either serve God or you serve sin no one can serve two masters. He will like one and hate the other. You tell me do you really believe a true Christian is someone the willfully and deliberately sins. Who is their master while they are doing this? How can they have two masters?

So Ed,

How would you re-write this verse to make it align with your theology?

What are you going to do with the WE?

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

[Justaned]

Hi Ed,

But according to you and your golden text of the Bible....

If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Heb 10:26, 27)

If future sins are forgiven... then why does this person who sinned AFTER salvation... have no sacrifice remaining for sin?

After all - he should not even need to confess his sins according to you... since they are - already forgiven!

The "willfully" part should be the focal point. Do you believe Christians willfully sin? If so would you show us scripture that attests to that fact. Can I ask why are you defending your right to sin?

Hi Ed,

Of Course Christians willfully sin.

James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.


Note your golden text again.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Notice this person is willfully sinning!

If that theology floats you boat. Knock your socks off. But don't be surprised if you ever here this.Matthew 7:23 (NASB)
...'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

What? What? What?

Attacking my salvation instead of addressing the Scripture?

What? Wasn't their some communist (that you love) who said something about that?

Romans 6:6 (NASB)
6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
That is either true or it is not. You either serve God or you serve sin no one can serve two masters. He will like one and hate the other. You tell me do you really believe a true Christian is someone the willfully and deliberately sins. Who is their master while they are doing this? How can they have two masters?

So Ed,

How would you re-write this verse to make it align with your theology?

What are you going to do with the WE?

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

I ain't joining the we that willfully sin. If you want to that is your business. We have a choice we either make Jesus our Lord relinquishing our right to willfully sin or we hold back, mistakenly thinking Jesus is our Lord and that we are saved.

[bibleman]

I ain't joining the we that willfully sin. If you want to that is your business. We have a choice we either make Jesus our Lord relinquishing our right to willfully sin or we hold back, mistakenly thinking Jesus is our Lord and that we are saved.

HI Ed,

Where do you get by accepting Jesus we relinquishing our right to sin?

We have a choice we either make Jesus our Lord relinquishing our right to willfully sin

PS - I guess that makes you and Creflo Dollar the teaching the same thing. I guess you are back to being Word Of Faith now!