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victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
That is one of the reasons I like Dake so much. Dake believes the Word of God and is bold enough to say it.

Even if Billy and Ed don't believe the Word then that does not change a thing!

If it is in God's Word, I believe and I do my best to live and practice it!


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Justaned wrote:
victoryword wrote:Justpained

You really MUST stop misquoting Scripture. It's embarrassing (for you of course, not me :mrgreen:)

James 1
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

How is my statement and quote of scripture a misquote? Your quote says if man lacks wisdom let him ask for it not doubting the God will give it. What does that have to do with trials that come our way?
Ed

If I have to explain it to you then you need to step down from the ministry and open a hotdog stand :mrgreen:


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bibleman wrote:
victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
That is one of the reasons I like Dake so much. Dake believes the Word of God and is bold enough to say it.

Even if Billy and Ed don't believe the Word then that does not change a thing!

If it is in God's Word, I believe and I do my best to live and practice it!
Well Bibleman, Ed is here to straighten us out. When we join his "Word of Unbelief" movement then he will be happy since he's so jealous of Dake and Kenyon. Billy, well, Billy just needs a whole lotta prayer. Ain't dat rat Billy?


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victoryword wrote:
Justaned wrote:
victoryword wrote:Justpained

You really MUST stop misquoting Scripture. It's embarrassing (for you of course, not me :mrgreen:)

James 1
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

How is my statement and quote of scripture a misquote? Your quote says if man lacks wisdom let him ask for it not doubting the God will give it. What does that have to do with trials that come our way?
Ed

If I have to explain it to you then you need to step down from the ministry and open a hotdog stand :mrgreen:
Here is the stand!

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victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.
I believe God healed my son because God showed me how to apply these fundamental truths that Dake taught here. I had just read this in GPFM two days before my son got sick. Praise God for his faithfulness and the simplicity of his written word and promises, no matter how much someone tries to get you to doubt God at his word, even If someone ever says "that promise in the bible is not for you". What a lie from the Devil.


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Rocky, what a beautiful testimony. The Word with experience trumps intellectual theology and Bible misquoting any day.

Bibleman, please be sure to supply Ed with kosher hotdogs. Those pork hotdogs are so unhealthy. :mrgreen:


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victoryword wrote:Rocky, what a beautiful testimony. The Word with experience trumps intellectual theology and Bible misquoting any day.

Bibleman, please be sure to supply Ed with kosher hotdogs. Those pork hotdogs are so unhealthy. :mrgreen:
Sorry victoryword,

But I can't do that.

Ed does NOT want anything extravagant or costly. Just the bear minimum and the left overs.

So I think I will go to the school district and pickup some of their thrown-out waste hot dogs from their lunch room.

According to Ed that will be all he needs or deserves!

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Actually, Copeland should sell his home and buy the supply of hotdogs for Ed to sell.


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:angel: :angel:
Justaned wrote:
branham1965 wrote:then that should work in every single case right?????

DOES IT???? DONT ANSWER.YOU KNOW IT DOESNT.
victoryword wrote:In teaching how our words can assist in the certainty of answered prayer, Finis Dake wrote the following:
  • One can say just as easily, "I can, I will, I do believe that God hears me and answers my prayer" as to say, "It is hard to believe, I don't know whether I can or not, I hope God hears me and answers prayer." One can form right words and cause them to come out of his mouth just as he can tell a lie, and if he is that kind of person, it is infinitely easier to tell the truth than a lie. All statements of unbelief and all doubts and unbelief as to whether God answers prayer or not are of the devil, and anyone who gives in to any of these ideas is co-operating with the devil. He is making God a liar and is hindering God from answering prayer for him. God will not on any occasion or in any one case transgress His law of faith and work contrary to faith. (Dake, GPFM, p. 281)
Dake firmly believe that God will bless or withhold His blessing based on one's positive or negative confession. Therefore, we are to give verbal expression to our faith, otherwise known as "making a positive confession" based on God's promises. Many have criticized this truth, including some who claim to be readers of Dake, yet Finis Dake taught this here and other places.

No it doesn't Billy for exactly this reason.
James 1:2-4 (NKJV)
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.


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