Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ CREFLO no need to confess sin

[Justaned]

Creflo says that we dont need to confess sins at all.he was released by God to say this.



hypergrace is the popular teaching of the day.but this time its gotten into the LEADERS OF THE CHARISMATIC CHURCH.

No it has gotten into Creflo Dollar's church there is a world of difference between authentic Pentecostal/Charismatic and Creflo Dollar's theology.

Hi Ed,

What did Creflo say that you disagree with?

I didn't listen to Creflo I was responding to Billy's comment.
However if Creflo said the 10 commandments and the law shouldn't be a part of our moral compass then I have to disagree with that. Most of the laws in this nation are founded or based on the 10 commandment and or the law.

Hi Ed,

Above you said: "Now it has gotten into Creflo Dollar's church..."

You then said: "I didn't listen to Creflo I was responding to Billy's comment."

Do you think that is wise to pass judgement on someone through "hearsay" testimony?

Above you said: "However if Creflo said the 10 commandments and the law shouldn't be a part of our moral compass then I have to disagree with that."

So then you believe that Christians should NOT eat shellfish, wear polyester, or cut their grass on Saturday morning?

You think that is our moral compass?

Bibleman
I think either we are all talking about the two different things. The Old Testament contained both the ceremonial/religious law and social/civil law. The religious law was part the dealt with Religion, hygiene and dietary laws. The civil/social law was the who should pay if a bull was killed or lying and murder.

Since we are not Jewish it makes no sense to keep the religious law however we all live in society so it make sense to make the social/civil law models for our laws. Therefore they become our moral compass.

OK,... So you believe we are to live by some of the OT law and not by some other parts of OT law!

Do you have a Scripture passage that would teach that in the NT?

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

[bibleman]

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

So again you are in agreement with Creflo Dollar.

[branham1965]

Pastor
we no longer need to confess our sins.hes studied it from every angle.he was released to tell them.

its opposed to the Reverend 100%%%.and when i say him i mean the Bible because he taught the Bible.

Joe Prince says we dont even need to live right.i heard it.he openly said we are saved and all sin is forgiven.he is osas.these men have erred from the truth in these areas.
Charisma has a forum.i made some posts because a Sister there wrote a great article on hypergrace.

Creflo says that we dont need to confess sins at all.he was released by God to say this.



hypergrace is the popular teaching of the day.but this time its gotten into the LEADERS OF THE CHARISMATIC CHURCH.

Billy,

What exactly did he say?

There has been this teaching for years that at conversion there is no need to confess every single sin, but to simply confess that we are a sinner and stand in need of God's forgiveness. Thus the New Birth.

Was that it... OR was he talking about confessing our sins AFTER salvation, when and if committed?

[branham1965]

Bibleman
did he say we dont have to confess our sins.
dont make me out a mule.im telling the truth.

OK

Just listened to the whole video of that teaching which was part of a series.

http://player.theplatform.com/p/IfSiAC/ ... ?form=html

Here is what I heard.

1) You have to listen to the whole series because he said he did not have time to give you all of that in one sermon.
2) He said we are NOT under the Law.
3) He said we are NOT to use the 10 commandments as our moral compass.
3) He said we are NOT to use the Law as our moral compass.
4) He said we are NOT to have to follow the 600 plus laws of the OT. (wonder where he got that - hint, hint)

I agree with ALL of that.

Do you?

[branham1965]

Creflo says that we dont need to confess sins at all.he was released by God to say this.



hypergrace is the popular teaching of the day.but this time its gotten into the LEADERS OF THE CHARISMATIC CHURCH.

No it has gotten into Creflo Dollar's church there is a world of difference between authentic Pentecostal/Charismatic and Creflo Dollar's theology.

Hi Ed,

What did Creflo say that you disagree with?

I didn't listen to Creflo I was responding to Billy's comment.
However if Creflo said the 10 commandments and the law shouldn't be a part of our moral compass then I have to disagree with that. Most of the laws in this nation are founded or based on the 10 commandment and or the law.

[branham1965]

did he say we no longer confess sins????????????????????????????all was paid for past present and future!!!!!
i heard him.do down play it because you like him somuch.
Reverend Kenneth Erwin Hagin NEVER EVER TAUGHT THAT RUBBISH!!!!!HE TAUGHT THAT GOD JUDGES SIN IN US IF WE DONT JUDGE OURSELVES.THAT IF WE MISS IT WE 1 JOHN 1.

i once heard Reverend Angley say that God was vexed with those Preachers preaching that we sin every day .... let alone this evil.
He has let many of them go Reverend Angley said.

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

So again you are in agreement with Creflo Dollar.

[branham1965]

I HEARD WHAT HE SAID.AND IVE HEARD HIM MORE THAN ONCE.


IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ME ????? SO BE IT.


I HEARD HIM.I HEARD HIM.

AND AS A PASTOR FOLKS NEED TO BE ISAIAH 58 THESE PEOPLE.

[branham1965]

I AM NOT.
YOU KNOW THIS IS SO. HE IS TEACHING GOD DOES NOT IMPUTE SIN TO THE BELIEVER!!!!!DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR!!!!!AND SO I CAN COMMIT ALL 17 WORKS OF THE FLESH TONIGHT AND ACCORDING TO THESE FELLOWS IM FINE.WHAT DEVIL DOCTRINE.

REVEREND DAKE WAS RIGHT.SIN IS IMPUTED TO YOU AND ME IF WE COMMIT IT.I KNEW THAT WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL 1976-1979 FROM THE DAKE BIBLE AND THE RED BOOK CADILLAC.
NOW THESE GUYS ARE TEACHING THIS HYPERGRACE AND ITS ACCEPTED.EVEN CODDLED!!!
IF WE OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL PAUL SAID.....LET HIM BE ACCURSED.GAL 1.

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

So again you are in agreement with Creflo Dollar.

[Justaned]

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

So again you are in agreement with Creflo Dollar.

NO the Old Testament Civil or Social laws are to be a moral compass to us.

[bibleman]

Bibleman
Most of the religious aspect of the law was fulfilled by Jesus. In any case 1Tim4:4,5 tells us we sanctify the food with prayer. Is there one place that lists all the aspects of the Old Testament Law Jesus fulfilled? No. It requires study to find them.

So again you are in agreement with Creflo Dollar.

NO the Old Testament Civil or Social laws are to be a moral compass to us.

Where do you find that in the NT?

What passage teaches that?