Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Did Peter lose his salvation?

[Justaned]

Luke 24:49 (KJV)
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Jesus sent them to Jerusalem to be endued with power for service - makes no mention of going and being saved as you had earlier eluded.

John 20:22

[Rocky]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

[Justaned]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

[Reuben]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

Lol... don't let it shake you too much.

[Justaned]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

Lol... don't let it shake you too much.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

[Rocky]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

Lol... don't let it shake you too much.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

"Ed always double talks and never refutes his opponents unless he tries to refute them with flippitty flop flottyy flop. He confuses, back tracts in giblitty globbity like fashion, and in the use of these methods he causes people to go kill squirrels then His followers attacks entire villages of squirrels, and steals all of their nuts. His polemic is directed at driving rocky crazy"

[Justaned]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

Lol... don't let it shake you too much.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

"Ed always double talks and never refutes his opponents unless he tries to refute them with flippitty flop flottyy flop. He confuses, back tracts in giblitty globbity like fashion, and in the use of these methods he causes people to go kill squirrels then His followers attacks entire villages of squirrels, and steals all of their nuts. His polemic is directed at driving rocky crazy"

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

[Reuben]

lol Ed are we flirting with OSAS here? Maybe you should take a break from your MacArthur study Bible for a little while. Try a DARB Oh and Catholics believe in being Born again more than once as well

I can't seem to get a lock on his actual view of Peter. At first I thought he didn't think he was saved, then he said he did believe he was but not like us, then he seemed to backtrack and say he was clean but I said he was saved, leading me to believe he doesn't believe Peter was saved again. Having trouble following him around. I would like to get to the denial by Peter but we have to know what he believes about Peter to begin with.

That is because Ed is talking out both sided of his mouth, He would make a great Politician. I am facing this with him in another thread. I have to do a lot of praying and repenting when I discuss things with him Because he drives me absolutely batty.

But its your problem not his

Lol... don't let it shake you too much.

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

"Ed always double talks and never refutes his opponents unless he tries to refute them with flippitty flop flottyy flop. He confuses, back tracts in giblitty globbity like fashion, and in the use of these methods he causes people to go kill squirrels then His followers attacks entire villages of squirrels, and steals all of their nuts. His polemic is directed at driving rocky crazy"

Lol that made me laugh Rocky

[Justaned]

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

[Reuben]

"Marx and Engels never tried to refute their opponents with argument. They insulted, ridiculed, derided, slandered, and traduced them, and in the use of these methods their followers are not less expert. Their polemic is directed never against the argument of the opponent, but always against his person."

Not sure of your point above when I have given continual proof of my position that Peter was saved and used Scripture to back the point. Not only that, I have allowed Scripture to speak for itself. Maybe I can list it again.

According to this Scripture - Peter confirmed his faith.
John 6:68-69 (KJV)
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Upon this confession you have the evidence of Scripture confirming his experience,
1 John 5:1 (KJV)
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

Then, it clearly states that Peter was cleansed from sin and then obeyed the Word of the Lord.
John 13:10 (KJV)
10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
John 15:3 (KJV)
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
John 17:6 (KJV)
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

Then, more evidence comes in from Scripture when it says his name was currently written in Heaven.
Luke 10:20 (KJV)
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

From John 13 on, Jesus is speaking with his disciples. In the context of John 15:3 he speaks of Peter (which is included) being in Christ.
John 15:1-6 (KJV)
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Peter was saved from the world.
John 17:14-16 (KJV)
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Peter was baptized and baptized others.
John 4:1-2 (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

Peter had the Holy Spirit according to the following.
Matthew 10:20 (KJV)
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

Peter cast out devils and healed the sick.
Mark 6:7-13 (KJV)
7 And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
8 And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
9 But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
10 And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.

Luke 9:6 (KJV)
6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.


So, again, I have given nothing but Scripture to prove the point.