Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ You don't have to be sick to die, Gloria Copeland just said

[bibleman]

Actually I believe in healing, having been healed myself. What I don't believe in is healing schools, healers, or scheduling the Holy Spirit to a healing service.

Hi Ed,

What a shame, I guess you would have missed out on Jesus' healing School as well wouldn't you.

Luke 5:15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities.

Luke 6:17 And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases;

Your doubt/unbelief and your man made theologies are costing you a lot in the way of the ministry of the Lord!

[Ironman]

How is this for a healing school, led by the greatest healer and teacher in the universe!

"And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.

Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

And then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." (Matt. 17:14-21).

[Ironman]

Sorry Bibleman, I posted just at the same time you did. Similar message!

[Justaned]

Actually I believe in healing, having been healed myself. What I don't believe in is healing schools, healers, or scheduling the Holy Spirit to a healing service.

Hi Ed,

What a shame, I guess you would have missed out on Jesus' healing School as well wouldn't you.

Luke 5:15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities.

Luke 6:17 And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases;

Your doubt/unbelief and your man made theologies are costing you a lot in the way of the ministry of the Lord!

I don't think so.

[Justaned]

Nasty? I asked you a question...to an answer you seemed to answer with such profound authority...

I answered the question about Pentecostals coming from the baptist.
I didn't say anything about Gloria Copeland or if the Holy Spirit lead her in anyway. But you came at me with a chip on your shoulder almost as if you were daring me to knock it off. That to me is senseless.

[victoryword]

Ed, have you ever studied the works of Lillian B. Yeomans, PC Nelson, Cornelius Nuzum, Smith Wigglesworth and other great pioneers of the Assemblies of God?

[Justaned]

Ed, have you ever studied the works of Lillian B. Yeomans, PC Nelson, Cornelius Nuzum, Smith Wigglesworth and other great pioneers of the Assemblies of God?

Yes I have.

To me what is missing today is people seeking God. They are seeking instead manifestations, signs and wonders if you will and want to give nothing of themselves to get it.

We don't see people tarrying at the altars, we don't see people crying out to God. We don't see fasting for days for God's leading.

What we see is hype, emotions, sensationalism and little of what made Pentecostalism, Pentecostal.

About the closest we come today of the Pentecostalism that ignited the church is when we reminisce about days gone by.

So please don't compare any of these today to those that knew the cost of having God's leading.

[cpbeller]

Ed: "And of course Gloria Copeland is an authority on the matter, having studied the reason people die for many years."

Need I say more?

[victoryword]

Dear Ed

Thanks for the unasked and unnecessary lecture in answer to my question. It proves to me that you do not know anything of what you are talking about. This discussion had nothing to do with tarrying and emotions and all that jazz. This has to do with your criticism of Gloria Copeland. If you REALLY had read the teachings of Yeomans, Nuzum, Wigglesworth, Nelson and others and if you held them in any esteem then you would never spout out so much neo-Calvinistic dung on this forum.

Just browsing through all of Yeoman's book let's me know that Gloria Copeland is closer to classic AG teachings than you and many modern day AG pastors. Your denomination is DEAD and all you have left is to criticize those who are currently upholding the truth that many in your denomination once held.

Stay in your dead denomination which is only a sad reminiscence of what once was.

[Justaned]

Dear Ed

Thanks for the unasked and unnecessary lecture in answer to my question. It proves to me that you do not know anything of what you are talking about. This discussion had nothing to do with tarrying and emotions and all that jazz. This has to do with your criticism of Gloria Copeland. If you REALLY had read the teachings of Yeomans, Nuzum, Wigglesworth, Nelson and others and if you held them in any esteem then you would never spout out so much neo-Calvinistic dung on this forum.

Just browsing through all of Yeoman's book let's me know that Gloria Copeland is closer to classic AG teachings than you and many modern day AG pastors. Your denomination is DEAD and all you have left is to criticize those who are currently upholding the truth that many in your denomination once held.

Stay in your dead denomination which is only a sad reminiscence of what once was.

First my dear friend I simply asked what qualified Gloria Copeland to make the statement "you don't have to be sick to die." I asked if she had researched her answer and if so how many autopsies did she observed. Nothing religious there.

You then asked if I knew various people and I said I had. In fact I had studied them a number of times. First in bible college, then again in seminary, and then again to grasp a deeper appreciation for Pentecostalism before much of it got high jacked by people that were looking only to make a profit.

You say Copeland is closer to AG teaching but then you say AG is dead. Which is it?
You seem to have a problem with the AG perhaps you would like to talk about it.