Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ divine

[macca]

why do some people call themselves 'divine' ?

This is what I found with Google Gemini: "A "divine" is a theologian or minister, particularly one who is eminent in religious knowledge. The term was frequently used in the 17th century to describe the clergy and scholars".

Not sure if that was the usage you were talking about. But, it was used that way, historically.

I believe this bunch follow Kenneth Copland's revelation that he got from Philippians. 2:5-6;
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus.
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD.
Ken believes that 'Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God'
He stopped reading at the end of verse 6 and stated," there it is'
we are equal with God. He has always tought that we don't have a God in us, WE ARE ONE!.
So they believe they are divine in the same way God is.

[Spiritblade Disciple]

I believe this bunch follow Kenneth Copland's revelation that he got from Philippians. 2:5-6;
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus.
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD.
Ken believes that 'Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God'
He stopped reading at the end of verse 6 and stated," there it is'
we are equal with God. He has always tought that we don't have a God in us, WE ARE ONE!.
So they believe they are divine in the same way God is.

I learned a lot from Kenneth Copeland, a while back. He was kind enough to send me one of his New Testaments with his notes in it for my birthday, once.

That said, his position on the believers not having a God in them, but being gods is challenging to accept. I don't think he's the only one in the Word of Faith or similar groups that have taught similarly.

I just saw an headline where folks, today, are actually worshiping William Branham, for instance.

That said, let's take a look at another passage in the New Testament where it seems that humans are being called gods, under certain circumstances.

John 10:35 New King James Version
... He called them gods, to whom the word of God came...

What did Jesus mean when He said that "He called them gods, to whom the word of God came"? Did Jesus mean that God calls those to whom the word of God comes gods?

[macca]

i still have the tape.
He stated very strongly, you don't have a God in you,
you are one.

one of the most evil statements ever mouthed by a christian.

1 john. 4:4; for greater is He who is in you, than he who is in the world.
1 Cor. 6:19; Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own.

2 Cor. 6:16; And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
I will dwell in them and walk among them.
I will be their God, And they shall be my people.
1 Cor. 3:16-17;
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Rom. 8:9-11;

[Spiritblade Disciple]

i still have the tape.
He stated very strongly, you don't have a God in you,
you are one.

one of the most evil statements ever mouthed by a christian.

Why is it "one of the most evil statements ever mouthed by a Christian"?

[macca]

I am supprised you even asked that question and very supprised no one else commented.
It is evil because Copland added to the word of God and destroyed what was written plainly in many places in the NT.
He also calls Jesus a liar.
Jesus said in many places in the Gospel of John that God the Holy Spirit will be in the believers. Just start at John 14:17; and keep reading.

[Spiritblade Disciple]

Macca wrote:
"I am supprised you even asked that question and very supprised no one else commented."

Well, the board isn't all that active, anymore. So, I'm not surprised that no one else commented.

I asked because I am aware of God making men into gods in the bible. Moses, for example (Exodus 7:1). And, those to whom the word of God comes (as already quoted in this thread).

And, I'm also aware of Dake's teaching on the word "in" meaning "in union with" and not literally "in." Meaning that (according to Dake) believers don't actually have God in them, just in union with them. So, if that's what Copeland had in mind, I can see how he could say what he said about not having a God in you.

Macca wrote:
"It is evil because Copland added to the word of God and destroyed what was written plainly in many places in the NT."

I can see how you'd conclude that. But, given Dake's teaching on in versus in union with and the Bible's teaching on men becoming gods, I can see how Copeland might have came to his conclusion.

Macca wrote:
"He also calls Jesus a liar. Jesus said in many places in the Gospel of John that God the Holy Spirit will be in the believers. Just start at John 14:17; and keep reading."

I see how you come to that conclusion. But, I also see how Copeland might come to the conclusion that he came to.

How do you explain Jesus giving God's glory to believers (John 17:22) when Isaiah 42:8 says that He won't give His glory to another without accepting what Copeland is saying?