There is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
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If they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
It matters very much to the world which uses this to justify rejecting anything Biblical or Christian - esp. when it comes to sexual immorality. If the Church was wrong about geocentrism, then she could be wrong about "thou shalt not commit adultery, etc. This is far more important than you realize.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:30 pmIf they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
Lord have mercy
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
Perhaps what you consider the "church" isn't really THE church.patrissimo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:34 pmIt matters very much to the world which uses this to justify rejecting anything Biblical or Christian - esp. when it comes to sexual immorality. If the Church was wrong about geocentrism, then she could be wrong about "thou shalt not commit adultery, etc. This is far more important than you realize.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:30 pmIf they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
Great point. Often the world is equated with the Church and we know the Church is His body and there is NO schism or darkness in His body. Of course non-fundamental topics of debate do not factor in as they are irrelevant for the most part unless they are build on deceiving the saints, but certain biblical things do matter such as denying that Jesus rose from the dead.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pmPerhaps what you consider the "church" isn't really THE church.patrissimo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:34 pmIt matters very much to the world which uses this to justify rejecting anything Biblical or Christian - esp. when it comes to sexual immorality. If the Church was wrong about geocentrism, then she could be wrong about "thou shalt not commit adultery, etc. This is far more important than you realize.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:30 pmIf they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
Word up!
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
Who decides what are and what are not non-fundamental topics? I see a lack of agreement even here.luchnia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:01 amGreat point. Often the world is equated with the Church and we know the Church is His body and there is NO schism or darkness in His body. Of course non-fundamental topics of debate do not factor in as they are irrelevant for the most part unless they are build on deceiving the saints, but certain biblical things do matter such as denying that Jesus rose from the dead.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pmPerhaps what you consider the "church" isn't really THE church.patrissimo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:34 pmIt matters very much to the world which uses this to justify rejecting anything Biblical or Christian - esp. when it comes to sexual immorality. If the Church was wrong about geocentrism, then she could be wrong about "thou shalt not commit adultery, etc. This is far more important than you realize.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:30 pmIf they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
Lord have mercy
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
Can't say I agree, as it seems more frequently I see the world as the antithesis of the churchluchnia wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:01 amGreat point. Often the world is equated with the ChurchHill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pmPerhaps what you consider the "church" isn't really THE church.patrissimo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:34 pmIt matters very much to the world which uses this to justify rejecting anything Biblical or Christian - esp. when it comes to sexual immorality. If the Church was wrong about geocentrism, then she could be wrong about "thou shalt not commit adultery, etc. This is far more important than you realize.Hill Top wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:30 pmIf they are actually moving away from us, then we would be moving away from them at the same speed.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:47 pmThere is no empirical evidence for that. That is why Stephen Hawking said he accepted that out of modesty. That is an ad hoc theory to save Copernicanism. The world dreads admitting the Church was right against Galileo (who later repented).Hill Top wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 pmIf you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:18 pm The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.
And who cares anyway?
It has no influence on my life in Christ.
I am glad you do see that fact.and we know the Church is His body and there is NO schism or darkness in His body.
Do you consider the ability to live without sin non-fundamental?Of course non-fundamental topics of debate do not factor in as they are irrelevant for the most part unless they are build on deceiving the saints, but certain biblical things do matter such as denying that Jesus rose from the dead.
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
Nope, in my view one must live without sin to inherit eternal life. The sinner is yielded to the evil one.
Word up!
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
That is a good belief.
Thank God for the death of the old man and its replacement by a new man.
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Re: Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?
What is a "euphoric" belief system?luchnia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:02 pmMaybe in a new age euphoric belief system, but not according to God's word. Why change God to some bodiless nothingness? What would that gain? Man is made in God's image and is man bodiless?patrissimo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:13 pm If it's possible for bodiless spirits to exist, then why can't God be a bodiless spirit?
Lord have mercy