Sin is disobedience to God.Grandfather wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:53 pmWhat law or rule will we be judged is a great question. I see you haven't answered it though.Hill Top wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:39 pmThe relativism is a valid point.
If stubbing ones toe is a sin, what is that relative to...I mean, by what law or rule will we be judged for such an unintentional occurrence?
Frankly, I live by the Law of Christ, which is...Love God above all else and love your neighbor as you love yourself.
Forgetting one's keys, stubbing a toe, or posting incomplete data is not "illegal".
If anyone wants to feel condemned for these actions...it is on them.
They have created their own Law.
Also you are confusing two different issues. The first is what is "sin" and the second is the penalty of that "sin!"
Let us use your unintentional occurrence as an example:
Take person "A" that does some work, research, experiments, etc and but arrives at a wrong conclusion. That person even acts on their research and there appears to be no dire consequences. An honest, unintentional mistake, no harm no foul right?
Person "A" again acts on that same research, this time 1000 people die. It is the same mistake, but the consequences are different. Why is he held accountable the second time and not the first? God holds us accountable for both the mistake and the consciquences.
You and others here are judging something as sin or not sin, only by the severity of the consequences not the fact that the action missed the mark.
You asked about what is it (sin) relative to. The standard is that which is set by God and his nature. He calls for us to be perfect. He calls for all things to be done in faith. He calls for his followers to do good everywhere and everytime they see to do it. This is a very high, exacting, and demanding standard.
On the other hand many on this forum are determining what is sin, not by God's standard of perfect holiness, perfect obedience to all the things He has commanded. Instead they are determining what is sin by the moving standard of how one action compares to another. By comparing the consciquences and intentions.
Again sin is not determine by how close or how far away from the mark you are. It is determine if you hit the exact mark that God sets, not one-onehundreth of a millimeter off.
So, determine what sin is first, realise the magnitude of it, the depth of it, the deceitfulness of it regardless of what consciquences it may or may not bear. Sin is still sin even if we cannot determine there are any harmful reactions to it.
God never told us not to stub a toe...or make a mistake.
Only you did.
I don't serve you: I serve the living God who gave us the latitude to make and learn from our mistakes.
I live under a new covenant that has allowed us to obey Him without fault.
It doesn't come with a "shields up" option to prevent stubbing a toe, or any other mistake.
You seem to be reintroducing a version of the Mosaic Law under the guise of legislated "any mistake is a sin".
Jesus died to free us from the Law, and from dogma such as yours.