Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Who is correct?

[Spiritblade Disciple]

Jesus didn't die to heal us from tooth aches or cancer.

Is everyone in agreement with Hill Top, here?

[macca]

Jesus didn't die to heal us from tooth aches or cancer.

Is everyone in agreement with Hill Top, here?

I do not and the bible does not.

[Hill Top]

Jesus didn't die to heal us from tooth aches or cancer.

Is everyone in agreement with Hill Top, here?

I do not and the bible does not.

Please provide the scriptures you refer to.

[macca]

Faith comes by hearing and constantly hearing the word of God.
So, what becomes of the people that hear a layer of church/denominations doctrines over the word of God?
Will they receive faith?

[Hill Top]

Faith comes by hearing and constantly hearing the word of God.
So, what becomes of the people that hear a layer of church/denominations doctrines over the word of God?
Will they receive faith?

You are changing the subject.
What scriptures infer that Jesus died so we won't have tooth aches or cancer ?

As for your new question, they will receive nothing.

[Bible Reader]

I am no fan of denominations, but often find a person's objection of a denominational teaching is based on misunderstanding and often a preachers misinterpretation of a denominational doctrine. People hear that preaching and disagree and walk away saying
Denomination X is all wrong. When in fact the preacher they heard was wrong and had corrupted the actual doctrine of the denomination. This happens in often and happens in both denominational and non denominational churches.
If you are going to object of a denominational doctrine make sure you have read that denominations stated doctrine and your objection is not based on what you heard or what you think you heard.

On the second part of this discussion yes God will heal a toothache, cancer, any disease or problem we have. But most scripture people stand on to claim this is taken out of context and does not accurately reflect God's given scripture. Again what is written has a snippet taken out of context and many preachers teach it as factual doctrine.

[Hill Top]

I am no fan of denominations, but often find a person's objection of a denominational teaching is based on misunderstanding and often a preachers misinterpretation of a denominational doctrine. People hear that preaching and disagree and walk away saying
Denomination X is all wrong. When in fact the preacher they heard was wrong and had corrupted the actual doctrine of the denomination. This happens in often and happens in both denominational and non denominational churches.
If you are going to object of a denominational doctrine make sure you have read that denominations stated doctrine and your objection is not based on what you heard or what you think you heard.

If the people abide by the false preachers doctrines, they are complicit with the preacher.
When false doctrines are presented, one's response should be to rectify the doctrine.
If the preacher won't rescind his opinion, it is time to leave.

On the second part of this discussion yes God will heal a toothache, cancer, any disease or problem we have. But most scripture people stand on to claim this is taken out of context and does not accurately reflect God's given scripture. Again what is written has a snippet taken out of context and many preachers teach it as factual doctrine.

God will indeed heal His people of their maladies, but that wasn't the reason Jesus suffered and died for us.

[Bible Reader]

This going off track with a discussion on false teachers. Yes there are false teachers and anyone that abides in false teaching is as wrong as the person doing the teaching. But again that is totally different subject.

My point is most people that object to a denominational teaching most commonly do not know the actual denominational position.
What they heard and object too is often a denominational position that was stated incorrectly or explained incorrectly to them.

[Hill Top]

This going off track with a discussion on false teachers. Yes there are false teachers and anyone that abides in false teaching is as wrong as the person doing the teaching. But again that is totally different subject.

My point is most people that object to a denominational teaching most commonly do not know the actual denominational position.
What they heard and object too is often a denominational position that was stated incorrectly or explained incorrectly to them.

If they object to it, they must know what it is.
If they don't know the denominations teachings, all they can object to is the preacher's presentation.

[Bible Reader]

This going off track with a discussion on false teachers. Yes there are false teachers and anyone that abides in false teaching is as wrong as the person doing the teaching. But again that is totally different subject.

My point is most people that object to a denominational teaching most commonly do not know the actual denominational position.
What they heard and object too is often a denominational position that was stated incorrectly or explained incorrectly to them.

If they object to it, they must know what it is.
If they don't know the denominations teachings, all they can object to is the preacher's presentation.

Or they think they know and object to what they think they know!