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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 1:14 pm
Here is a point Swaggart brought ought many years ago:
How can God be fettered by time - if the future does not exist as of this instant.
In other words the future does NOT exist, so how can that be any kind of limitation on God?
The future does exist, but we don't know what it holds.



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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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Hill Top wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 2:38 pm
The future does exist, but we don't know what it holds.
Got a Scripture that would state that the future exist at this very moment?


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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 7:22 pm
Got a Scripture that would state that the future exist at this very moment?
The future won't exist till the future is the present.
We do, however, have God's word detailing future events like the world's end and the day of judgement.



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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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Hill Top wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 10:44 pm
The future won't exist till the future is the present.
We do, however, have God's word detailing future events like the world's end and the day of judgement.
Well that being the case the future does not exist at this time as you say.

And that means that God not knowing the future... is perfectly fine since there is nothing to know, then God is not limited.


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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
Well that being the case the future does not exist at this time as you say.
It is called "the future", you know.
bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
And that means that God not knowing the future... is perfectly fine since there is nothing to know, then God is not limited.
Nothing to know?
Do you think there will be a future?
If so, don't you already know what somethings will be?
Grayer hair and less "gas in the tank"...for instance?
We all know that Jesus will return.

I don't follow your "if there is nothing to know, then God is not limited"
If there is something to know, does that somehow limit God?
There is plenty to know, and nothing limits God.



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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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Hill Top wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 2:45 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
Well that being the case the future does not exist at this time as you say.
It is called "the future", you know.
bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
And that means that God not knowing the future... is perfectly fine since there is nothing to know, then God is not limited.
Nothing to know?
Do you think there will be a future?
If so, don't you already know what somethings will be?
Grayer hair and less "gas in the tank"...for instance?
We all know that Jesus will return.

I don't follow your "if there is nothing to know, then God is not limited"
If there is something to know, does that somehow limit God?
There is plenty to know, and nothing limits God.
According to you there is nothing to know. And I agree.


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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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bibleman wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 5:35 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 2:45 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
Well that being the case the future does not exist at this time as you say.
It is called "the future", you know.
bibleman wrote:
Mon May 22, 2023 11:50 pm
And that means that God not knowing the future... is perfectly fine since there is nothing to know, then God is not limited.
Nothing to know?
Do you think there will be a future?
If so, don't you already know what somethings will be?
Grayer hair and less "gas in the tank"...for instance?
We all know that Jesus will return.

I don't follow your "if there is nothing to know, then God is not limited"
If there is something to know, does that somehow limit God?
There is plenty to know, and nothing limits God.
According to you there is nothing to know. And I agree.
Fine.



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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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This topic made me think since divine beings created all things, it would seem that the creation of something that could constrain you would be impossible as that would be outside of your ability to create whatever it is that you create, yet we do know God is limited in some areas. A simple one is God cannot lie so that is a constraint. Or maybe it is that God could lie, but chooses not to? Either ways seems interesting. Might be arguable point for sure.

If time constrains God, does that mean God did not create time, OR maybe the measurement of time was created for humans to have a reference point. The term ancient of days denotes time. The thing is, we know God uses time and it is recorded that God used time from the very beginning. No doubt, there is much more to understand about this topic and there are no answers that are recorded for us.


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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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God created time! Can God be fettered by something He created? No! Never. 2 Peter 3:8 tells us how God deals with time. God can see creation Genesis 1:1 and the New Jerusalem coming to the New Earth Rev 21:1 at the same time.



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Re: Is God Fettered by Time?

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Bible Reader wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:31 am
God created time! Can God be fettered by something He created? No! Never. 2 Peter 3:8 tells us how God deals with time. God can see creation Genesis 1:1 and the New Jerusalem coming to the New Earth Rev 21:1 at the same time.
Amen.



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