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Re: Is God in control

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Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:41 pm
bibleman wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:45 pm
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How would any of that glorify God? God wanted us to worship Him because we loved and worshipped God not because he made us.
Back to the original question...

If God is in control... Then why doesn't he make people get saved, become disciples, pay their tithes, go to church and a host of other wonderful things?
God never has and never will force anyone to do His will.
So God is NOT in control of those who do NOT want to yield to HIS will... Right?
God has set the parameters of how man should live.
If man doesn't want to abide by/with God, he is free to do as he wishes.
That does not equate to loss of control.
Look up the word control.
If God wanted to "control" us, He would.
But He wants us to come to Him of our own freewill.
He wants us to love Him of our own accord, because forced love isn't really love.
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."

Do you have a Scripture for this?


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Re: Is God in control

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bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.



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Re: Is God in control

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Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?


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Re: Is God in control

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Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
Interesting change in your view about the will of man. It is rare that people are open to change their views about their doctrines. If we are to be mature and grow in Christ we must all realize there might be more to what God has given us in His word than how we perceive a matter.


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Re: Is God in control

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bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:19 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?
I guess when one asks if God is in control, the parameters have to be set.
God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us.
And by making the choices available to us, is in control to some degree.
But God is in control of things, otherwise.



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Re: Is God in control

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luchnia wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:59 am
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
Interesting change in your view about the will of man. It is rare that people are open to change their views about their doctrines. If we are to be mature and grow in Christ we must all realize there might be more to what God has given us in His word than how we perceive a matter.
You'll need to remind me of what "view" I have changed.



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Re: Is God in control

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Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:19 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?
I guess when one asks if God is in control, the parameters have to be set.
God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us.
And by making the choices available to us, is in control to some degree.
But God is in control of things, otherwise.
What would some of the these otherwise things that God would be in control of?


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Re: Is God in control

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bibleman wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:16 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:19 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?
I guess when one asks if God is in control, the parameters have to be set.
God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us.
And by making the choices available to us, is in control to some degree.
But God is in control of things, otherwise.
What would some of the these otherwise things that God would be in control of?
My "otherwise" was the things mentioned in that post..."God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us."



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Re: Is God in control

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Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:45 pm
bibleman wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:16 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:19 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?
I guess when one asks if God is in control, the parameters have to be set.
God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us.
And by making the choices available to us, is in control to some degree.
But God is in control of things, otherwise.
What would some of the these otherwise things that God would be in control of?
My "otherwise" was the things mentioned in that post..."God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us."
Well if God is NOT in control of our choices...
And God has said that we reap what we sow...
Then there isn't much God is in control of is there?


God bless
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Re: Is God in control

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:14 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:45 pm
bibleman wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:16 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:37 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:19 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Above you said: "If God wanted to "control" us, He would."
Do you have a Scripture for this?



Not an exact quote, but I do have scripture saying that God allows us to freely make our own decisions...
"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." (Rev 21:6)
If He wanted to control us, He would force us to "take of the fountain of the water of life".
It is up tp us.
So it being up to us... God is NOT in control is He?
I guess when one asks if God is in control, the parameters have to be set.
God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us.
And by making the choices available to us, is in control to some degree.
But God is in control of things, otherwise.
What would some of the these otherwise things that God would be in control of?
My "otherwise" was the things mentioned in that post..."God is not in control of our choices, other than to make the choices available to us."
Well if God is NOT in control of our choices...
And God has said that we reap what we sow...
Then there isn't much God is in control of is there?
Nothing but every other thing in the universe besides our choices.



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