The WORD of God itself settles the question for me... It should for you as well.Grandfather wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:10 pmOh... you posted it for me, but you wrote...bibleman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:00 pm Who cares what the article says? I posted that for you benefit, since you need external sources to believe the Bible.
ME? I simply believe what Paul wrote.
Here it is with NO interpretation at all.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
For the record, I too believe what Paul wrote, how that was not the question that launched this discussion, but it is the statement you keep circling back to as your defense.
As to your "no interpretation at all" there is no such thing at NO interpretation at all.
1 Thes 2:13 - Jewish people often understood a rabbi's word as being the truth from God, but did not equate it on par with scripture but as close to equal to it as possible. So, what is Paul's word commending them for receiving it as rabbinical teaching, or as Holy Scripture? Both of those possibilities exist as "interpretations" of the text UNLESS one is blinding reading them with a personal bias. (Which you can continue to do as you have demonstrated.)
Gal 1:12 - I would ask you to define "the gospel preached" to which that passage is referring. If it is the same as what Jesus preached, then I would say Paul is simply "passing on" the message. However, if you include the expansive teaching and explaining of the gospel as "the gospel", but again you would have to INTERPRET what is meant by "gospel preached" and you say you don't do that. So, we can agree that where Paul said the exact same thing Jesus did, he preached the gospel. I have no problem with that, just as when you or I write the exact same thing we find within the pages of the Bible we understand we are writing scripture. However, when Paul wrote... Romans 16 - did he believe that would be scripture as well?
BTW - thank you for continuing to prove my point for me with your attempts to dispute the point.
As Dake would say: here it is, you can: "believe it or not."
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.