Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Dake and Divine Attributes

[Grandfather]

Well you are welcome to have your opinion.

And of course we can believe the many places in the Bible that tell us of the nature of God without the input from liberal theologians.

Indeed we are both entitled to our opinions, and we can believe in the many places in the Bible that tell us of the omniscience of God.

And we surely do not need advice from all the liberal theologians that tell us God, if there is one, is weak, unjust, and is still learning as he goes. Who would want to serve a deity that is still in the learning process? Not me.

[bibleman]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

[Grandfather]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

Why does Dake ignore the passages indicate God has Omnipresent

[bibleman]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

Why does Dake ignore the passages indicate God has Omnipresent

He doesn't.

[Grandfather]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

Why does Dake ignore the passages indicate God has Omnipresent

He doesn't.

What are Dake’s comments on Jer 23:24 - God fills the heavens and the Earth. If he fills them, then he is everywhere!
Or
Psalm 139:7. If there is no place to flee from him, there is no place he is not present. But Dake avoids this simple reading that is in contradiction to his position.

[patrissimo]

Leon Bible wrote:

"The angels reported to God the information they had gained from walking to and fro in the earth.
It is a fact of Scripture.
I really don't have a problem with believing the Scripture as it is."

I understand your position but I did ask where does the text actually say that God needed to find out what they angels were reporting? I see nothing clear and unambiguous supporting your position here. What about my other questions?

Patrissimo

I don't think the text said God NEEDED here... But the fact is they told Him the info. What purpose would a "stage performance" by God and angels (acting like they are sharing information) serve?

And to show that God has ways of obtaining information notice Zec 6:8.

Zechariah 6:8 Then he cried to me, “Behold, those who go toward the north country have set my Spirit at rest in the north country.” (ESV)

HOW is it that God's Spirit was "quieted" or set at "rest" unless if was based on the knowledge He received from the angels?

I already addressed this but I'll try again. Who hasn't seen a situation where a child's parents hear about something the child did bad in school such as skip class and when the child returns home, the parent asks, "where where you today?" The parent asks this even though he already knows.

God gives the angels a participation in His works out of His overflowing Goodness.

[bibleman]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

Why does Dake ignore the passages indicate God has Omnipresent

He doesn't.

What are Dake’s comments on Jer 23:24 - God fills the heavens and the Earth. If he fills them, then he is everywhere!
Or
Psalm 139:7. If there is no place to flee from him, there is no place he is not present. But Dake avoids this simple reading that is in contradiction to his position.

Look them up and then let me know what his comments are.

[Ironman]

Let's just let Dake give the Biblical view.

God is Omniscient

The question of the omniscience of God is also much misunderstood. The Bible makes many simple statements that limit God's knowledge. There would be no sense to such passages if we do not believe them literally. There is no meaning to them if we take them figuratively. There was no purpose for God to say such things about Himself, if they were untrue.

God gets to know things concerning the free moral actions of men as others do (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2 Chron. 16:9; Zech. 4:10; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; Ps. 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4).

God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4).

God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God.

Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

God does not personally do everything that is done in all acts and events, nor has He known, elected, chosen, or predestinated all the acts and events from all eternity past. Several times God Himself said of certain events that they did not come into His mind (Jer. 19:5; 32:35; 44:21).

God did not know beforehand that men would become so wicked (Gen. 6:5-7); that they would plan Babel (Gen. 11:5-7); that Sodom would be so wicked (Gen. 18:21, 26, 28-32); that Abraham would actually proceed to offer up Isaac (Gen. 22:12).

God did not know whether it would take one or two or three signs to make Israel believe in Him (Exod. 4:1-12); or whether testing Israel would cause them to obey Him, or not (Deut. 8:2, 16).

He did not know that Israel would backslide as far as she did (Deut. 32:19-29; Isa. 59:15-19).

Furthermore, He searches to find men whom He can bless (2 Chron. 16:9); He discovers deep things (Job 12:22); tries the hearts and reins of men so that He may know them (Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6, 23-24; Jer. 17:10; 1 Chron. 28:9; Rom. 8:27; 1 Cor 2:10; Rev. 2:23), proving all men for the same reason (Ps. 17:3; 66:10; 81:7).

God sends messengers throughout the whole of His vast creations to find out for Him what He wants to know, the same as the head of any other business would be likely to do, so that plans may be made and actions taken accordingly. Examples of such agency constantly reporting to God can be found in Gen. 18:21-22; Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14; 2:2; Rev. 1:1; 7:1-3; 8:2-13; 9:1; 14:6-20; 15:1-8; 16:1-21; 18:21; 22:6, 8-9, 16.

Finis J. Dake, God's Plan for Man, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Publishing, Inc., 2004), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, 62.

Why does Dake ignore the passages indicate God has Omnipresent

He doesn't.

What are Dake’s comments on Jer 23:24 - God fills the heavens and the Earth. If he fills them, then he is everywhere!
Or
Psalm 139:7. If there is no place to flee from him, there is no place he is not present. But Dake avoids this simple reading that is in contradiction to his position.

God does not bodily fill the heavens and the earth. God lives in Heaven, as Jesus, who should know more than anyone in Heaven and earth should know. Jesus clearly said in many Scriptures, Matthew 6:9, Matthew 5:16, Matthew 18:14, Matthew 23:9, Luke 11:13, Mark 11:25, Matthew 5:48, Matthew 12:50, Matthew 6:1, Matthew 6:1, Matthew 7:11, Matthew 18:19, Matthew 10:33, Matthew 18:10, Mark 11:26, Matthew 16:17, Matthew 5:45, Matthew 18:35, Matthew 6:14, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 10:32, God lives in Heaven).

Its God's innumerable angels that fill the heavens and the earth and they report to Him all He wants and needs to know.

[patrissimo]

It is easy to disagree, but what is impossible is to go to the Scriptures, read them, believe them.... and still disagree!

9. Omniscience (all-knowing) as far as His nature, plan, and work are concerned (Rom. 11:33).

As to free moral agents, God learns certain things about them (Gen. 6:5-7; 11:5-7; 18:21; 22:12; 2Chr. 16:9; Job 12:22; 24:23; Ps. 7:9; 44:21; 139:1-6; Prov. 24:12; Jer. 17:10; Ezek. 11:5; Zech. 4:10; 2Cor. 2:10-11; Rom. 8:27; 1Th. 2:4).

God sends messengers on innumerable errands to help Him carry on His rulership of all things (Dan. 10:13-21; 11:1; 12:1; Zech. 1:7-11; 6:1-8; Mt. 18:10-11; Heb. 1:14).

He permits free moral agents freedom of action as to their conduct and destiny (note, Rom. 8:29).

Finis Jennings Dake, Dake's Annotated Reference Bible: Containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version Text, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1997), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: "Psalm 14".

Here is one example that cannot be reconciled with the theological opinions that men give concerning the omniscience and omnipresence of God.

Genesis 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

Not if one does not accept Dake's methodology for interpreting scriptures.

Dake does not interpret Scriptures.

But that being said where in Genesis 18:21 do you find the liberal modern day understanding of the omniscience and omnipresence of God?

In my experience, I have found that modern liberals tend to deny what they call "Classical theism" which includes the traditional understanding of the Divine Attributes. While they may not have Dake's materialist ontology, they still deny the traditional attributes such as Simplicity, Eternity, etc. They're just more idealist versions of Dake.

[Grandfather]

Jer 23:24 - God fills the heavens and the Earth. If he fills them, then he is everywhere!
Or
Psalm 139:7. If there is no place to flee from him, there is no place he is not present. A simple reading that is in contradiction to his position.

God does not bodily fill the heavens and the earth. God lives in Heaven, as Jesus, who should know more than anyone in Heaven and earth should know. Jesus clearly said in many Scriptures, Matthew 6:9, Matthew 5:16, Matthew 18:14, Matthew 23:9, Luke 11:13, Mark 11:25, Matthew 5:48, Matthew 12:50, Matthew 6:1, Matthew 6:1, Matthew 7:11, Matthew 18:19, Matthew 10:33, Matthew 18:10, Mark 11:26, Matthew 16:17, Matthew 5:45, Matthew 18:35, Matthew 6:14, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 10:32, God lives in Heaven).

Its God's innumerable angels that fill the heavens and the earth and they report to Him all He wants and needs to know.

First, Please tell me how you arrive at this conclusion by a simple reading of the text? Where does the text say it is by "innumerable angels" that God fills the heavens? If you want to "read into" the text something that is not plainly stated, then you are free to do so. However, allow others the same leeway if they desire to "read into" the text something that is not plainly stated.

Second, if God "learns" then he is constantly changing. (That is the basic premise of learning) And if God is changing, then the passages that say he changes not are a lie.

Third, 1 John 3:20 plainly states that God knows, not learns about, everything. If the angels are telling him things he did not know, then these verse is also "untrue"