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Essentials of the Christian faith

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What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?



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I’ll start... the essentials

An orthodox view of Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
The virgin birth
The death, burial, resurrection and assecention of Jesus Christ.
A orthodox understand of Jesus Christ as savior
Understanding the personhood of the Holy Spirit - he is not a “force”
The fallen nature of mankind (human kind if we are to be pc)
The reliablity of the Holy Scriptures to reveal the above

There may be others, but these are the starting point.



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Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.


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Ironman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.
I agree....

I would CHANGE two of Grandpa's list items like this:

A BIBLICAL view of Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
A BIBLICAL understand of Jesus Christ as savior


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bibleman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:42 pm
Ironman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.
I agree....

I would CHANGE two of Grandpa's list items like this:

A BIBLICAL view of Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
A BIBLICAL understand of Jesus Christ as savior
I may agree with you, can you explain the difference between orthodox and biblical for me.



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Ironman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.
I would be willing to suggest that many of your beliefs were founded in Augustine's explanation of the core tenants of biblical belief.



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Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:58 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:42 pm
Ironman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.
I agree....

I would CHANGE two of Grandpa's list items like this:

A BIBLICAL view of Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
A BIBLICAL understand of Jesus Christ as savior
I may agree with you, can you explain the difference between orthodox and biblical for me.
Well as you may know orthodox is what is traditionally accepted as true as has been put forth by the church over the ages.

Biblical of course is that which aligns with clear Bible statements as give in the Bible itself.


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bibleman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:21 pm

Well as you may know orthodox is what is traditionally accepted as true as has been put forth by the church over the ages.

Biblical of course is that which aligns with clear Bible statements as give in the Bible itself.
I am puzzeled. Are there some tradionally held orthodox beliefs that you believe do not line up with scripture?



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Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:00 pm
Ironman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:35 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:52 pm
What are the essentials?

Augustine is said to have stated:”In Essentials Unity, In Non-Essentials Liberty, In All Things Charity”

C.S. Lewis wrote: “One of the things that Christians are disagreed about is the importance of their disagreements. When two Christians of different denominations start arguing, it is usually not long before one asks where such-and-such a point ‘really matters’ and the other replies: ‘Matters? Why it’s absolutely essential”

What do you consider essential for the Christian faith? What are some of the non-essentials?
I don't particularly care what Augustine or C.S. Lewis stated and wrote! The Holy Word of God as "It is written," is all that matters to me.
I would be willing to suggest that many of your beliefs were founded in Augustine's explanation of the core tenants of biblical belief.
I don't care what you suggest. My beliefs are founded upon the Holy Word of God, not upon the words of men. I read the Word of God and I believe what I read. It took me some time to unlearn all the garbage men loaded me up with. Now that I am free from it all, I will never return to contrary teaching.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Grandfather wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:28 pm
bibleman wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:21 pm

Well as you may know orthodox is what is traditionally accepted as true as has been put forth by the church over the ages.

Biblical of course is that which aligns with clear Bible statements as give in the Bible itself.
I am puzzeled. Are there some tradionally held orthodox beliefs that you believe do not line up with scripture?
In the Orthodox church tradition, eggs are a symbol of new life. Early Christians used eggs to symbolize the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the regeneration of believers. At Easter, eggs are dyed red to represent the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross for the redemption of all men. Easter eggs come from some kind of springtime pagan fertility practice not from the Word of God.


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