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Re: Essentials of the Christian faith

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Grandfather wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 8:43 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 6:39 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 6:21 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:47 pm
So go ahead and take a position, please.

Or is your position a secret?
My position is not in question, yours is. All I am asking is that you defend your position in light of scripture.

Of course you can always admit it is merely your opinion and you have no defense in light of the scriptures I referenced.
If you don't want to state who you think the Father of Jesus is... then don't.

This is a discussion board and you can't just throw out all of this junk that you do and then step back and say you don't believe it.

It is this kind of attitude that causes people to NOT want to interact with you.
Perhaps you are correct. But when I state an opinion I will call it opinion. When I assert something as factual I will support it with evidence. I have never asserted something as fact then run away when confronted with scripture that points to a different conclusion.

You made such a claim but in light of the plain reading (a phrase you like to use) of Matt 1 it is difficult to support that claim. But rather that acknowledging that difficult you are attempting to dodge the question and shift the focus.
Not all all... read my response concerning the fact that the Father is in fact the father of Christ. I even gave you Clarke's position that states the same with the Holy Spirit being the power that brought it about.

You have not given us your belief in the Father being the father of Christ, that I recall.


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Re: Essentials of the Christian faith

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Grandfather wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 9:47 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 9:08 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 8:43 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 6:39 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 6:21 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:47 pm
So go ahead and take a position, please.

Or is your position a secret?
My position is not in question, yours is. All I am asking is that you defend your position in light of scripture.

Of course you can always admit it is merely your opinion and you have no defense in light of the scriptures I referenced.
If you don't want to state who you think the Father of Jesus is... then don't.

This is a discussion board and you can't just throw out all of this junk that you do and then step back and say you don't believe it.

It is this kind of attitude that causes people to NOT want to interact with you.
Perhaps you are correct. But when I state an opinion I will call it opinion. When I assert something as factual I will support it with evidence. I have never asserted something as fact then run away when confronted with scripture that points to a different conclusion.

You made such a claim but in light of the plain reading (a phrase you like to use) of Matt 1 it is difficult to support that claim. But rather that acknowledging that difficult you are attempting to dodge the question and shift the focus.
Not all all... read my response concerning the fact that the Father is in fact the father of Christ. I even gave you Clarke's position that states the same with the Holy Spirit being the power that brought it about.

You have not given us your belief in the Father being the father of Christ, that I recall.
I’m still trying to understand your position. The Father is the father, but the Holy Spirit came upon Mary and enabled the conception. If you are the father of your children I struggle that someone else came to your wife and enabled and empowered that conception. Please tell me you understand that is a difficult thing to grasp. Simply saying it, does not answer the question.
Not difficult at all.... W must NOT think that God is limited to human abilities!

Luke 1:34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.
36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren.
37 For with God nothing will be impossible.”


If you have the time, Here Dake explains the father and son issues.


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Re: Essentials of the Christian faith

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Are you are basing your position on the basis of “with God nothing is impossible@



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Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:07 am
Are you are basing your position on the basis of “with God nothing is impossible@
Do you believe that with God nothing is impossible.... where Mary having a child is concerned?


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Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 3:03 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 8:32 am
Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:07 am
Are you are basing your position on the basis of “with God nothing is impossible@
Do you believe that with God nothing is impossible.... where Mary having a child is concerned?
I may answer that question AFTER you clarify your position.

Are you claiming that even when a plain reading of the text indicates that Holy Spirit came upon Mary and what was conceived within her was from Holy Spirit, that the Father was still the father of Jesus? And this apparent contradiction of fatherhood is resolved by the scripture "with God nothing is impossible"

Matt 1:18 .... she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:34....The Holy Spirit will come upon you
So, the Father is the father because....
Luk 1:37 .. nothing will be impossible with God.”

Would this be a correct representation of your position?
Not playing these childish games.


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Re: Essentials of the Christian faith

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Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 9:15 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 4:43 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 3:03 pm
bibleman wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 8:32 am
Grandfather wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:07 am
Are you are basing your position on the basis of “with God nothing is impossible@
Do you believe that with God nothing is impossible.... where Mary having a child is concerned?
I may answer that question AFTER you clarify your position.

Are you claiming that even when a plain reading of the text indicates that Holy Spirit came upon Mary and what was conceived within her was from Holy Spirit, that the Father was still the father of Jesus? And this apparent contradiction of fatherhood is resolved by the scripture "with God nothing is impossible"

Matt 1:18 .... she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:34....The Holy Spirit will come upon you
So, the Father is the father because....
Luk 1:37 .. nothing will be impossible with God.”

Would this be a correct representation of your position?
Not playing these childish games.
Then perhaps if you spoke plainly I would not need clarification of your intentions
Grandfather, Bibleman doesn't have the time or the crayons to explain this any further to you. :lol!:


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