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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:19 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:07 am
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:02 am

No lack of knowledge here at all. The Bible clearly states the earth was created in Genesis 1:1.

Then we see the recreation of the earth in the following verses of chapter.
When did God implement chapter and verse in scripture? Since you insist on separating verses 1 and 2, please tell me when God separated them. Provide scriptural proof of your defense.
God of course did NOT implement chapter and verse... BUT Moses did place the second line after the first line of Genesis.

Hope you are not suggesting that Moses was wrong to do so!
What does that prove? If one were to build a house they would strat construction after gathering material.



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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:42 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:19 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:07 am
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:02 am

No lack of knowledge here at all. The Bible clearly states the earth was created in Genesis 1:1.

Then we see the recreation of the earth in the following verses of chapter.
When did God implement chapter and verse in scripture? Since you insist on separating verses 1 and 2, please tell me when God separated them. Provide scriptural proof of your defense.
God of course did NOT implement chapter and verse... BUT Moses did place the second line after the first line of Genesis.

Hope you are not suggesting that Moses was wrong to do so!
What does that prove? If one were to build a house they would strat construction after gathering material.
Genesis 1:1 does not say God was gathering materials!

Do you think God was so weak that He had to gather materials from someone else so he could feebly put together his Creation.

Very funny!

No, If you read nothing else but Genesis 1:1, what would you come away thinking?

That God gathered materials or that He Created the Heavens and the Earth?


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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:52 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:42 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:19 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:07 am
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:02 am

No lack of knowledge here at all. The Bible clearly states the earth was created in Genesis 1:1.

Then we see the recreation of the earth in the following verses of chapter.
When did God implement chapter and verse in scripture? Since you insist on separating verses 1 and 2, please tell me when God separated them. Provide scriptural proof of your defense.
God of course did NOT implement chapter and verse... BUT Moses did place the second line after the first line of Genesis.

Hope you are not suggesting that Moses was wrong to do so!
What does that prove? If one were to build a house they would strat construction after gathering material.
Genesis 1:1 does not say God was gathering materials!

Do you think God was so weak that He had to gather materials from someone else so he could feebly put together his Creation.

Very funny!

No, If you read nothing else but Genesis 1:1, what would you come away thinking?

That God gathered materials or that He Created the Heavens and the Earth?
Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.



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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?


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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?



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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?
Show me the quote that says God used recycled material to create the Earth?


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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?
Show me the quote that says God used recycled material to create the Earth?
I never said he did, You are the one making the claim. that the Earth we reside on was recycled.



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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:18 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?
Show me the quote that says God used recycled material to create the Earth?
I never said he did, You are the one making the claim. that the Earth we reside on was recycled.
Show me the quote that I said God used recycled material to create the Earth?


God bless
Leon Bible

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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:23 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:18 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?
Show me the quote that says God used recycled material to create the Earth?
I never said he did, You are the one making the claim. that the Earth we reside on was recycled.
Show me the quote that I said God used recycled material to create the Earth?
Do you not believe there was a world that existed prior to Gen 1:2?



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Re: Two questions about Lucifer his creation and his fall

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Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:40 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:23 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:18 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:27 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:25 pm
bibleman wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:05 pm
Grandfather wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:59 pm

Indeed Moses did place the second after the first, but you are now attempting to place something before the first.

It is your concept of God that he is recycling material, not mine. I am presenting the possibility that God spoke a mass, that appears formless and void into exsistence, and from that mass began creating as he spoke to it.

Just a simple reading of Genesis:1:1 That God created the heavens and the earth
Adding Genesis 1:2 that he started from a substance that had no resemblance to what he finished with.
No possibility at all! God did not speak a "mass" and then form the heavens and the earth out of that mass!

What verse says He did that?
you’re the one saying he is using recycled material. where does it SAY that, not imply, but simply state that as fact?
Show me the quote that says God used recycled material to create the Earth?
I never said he did, You are the one making the claim. that the Earth we reside on was recycled.
Show me the quote that I said God used recycled material to create the Earth?
Do you not believe there was a world that existed prior to Gen 1:2?
Let's get this question answered first, please sir.

Show me the quote that I said God used recycled material to create the Earth?


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