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Yes, Dake thought so.

Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?


Matthew 5:19-20 New King James Version
"Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."

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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:02 am
Yes, Dake thought so.
Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?
How about...the bible says it was an angel?



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Hill Top wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:33 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:02 am
Yes, Dake thought so.
Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?
How about...the bible says it was an angel?
And, how would that rule out the idea that the angel is Jesus?


Matthew 5:19-20 New King James Version
"Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."

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another mighty angel. Many commentators understand this to be Jesus Christ. But the Greek word translated “another” means one of the same kind, that is, a created being. This is not one of the seven angels responsible for sounding the trumpets (8:2), but one of the highest ranking in heaven, filled with splendor, greatness, and strength (cf 5:2; 8:3; 18:1). rainbow. See note on 4:3. Perhaps God included this to remind John that even in judgment, He will always remember His Noahic covenant and protect His own. feet like pillars of fire. This angel’s feet and legs indicate the firm resolve with which he will execute the Day of the Lord.



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Here is Dake's notes on the issue.

This Angel Is Christ:

1. The description of Him in Rev. 10:1 proves He is Christ (cp. Rev. 1:12-16; Dan. 10:5-6).

2. The book open in His hand proves it. In Rev. 5:5-7 Christ takes the sealed book out of the right hand of God. In Rev. 6:1 -- Rev. 8:1 He breaks the seals that bind it. Here the same little book is open so that the contents of the things written within might be revealed (Rev. 10:2,8-11).

3. Christ is the one giving John the Revelation (Rev. 1:1; 10:4,8-11).

4. His voice as a lion roaring (Rev. 10:3) identifies Him with the lion of Judah (Rev. 5:5; cp. Isa. 31:4-5; Jer. 25:29-36; Hos. 11:10-11; Joel 3:16; Amos 3:8). In these passages the Lord is spoken of as a lion roaring in the day of the Lord.

5. The swearing of the angel (Rev. 10:6) proves Him to be a divine person, for not one time in Scripture does an ordinary angel make an oath to God or man. In 50 scriptures it is stated that God swore or made oaths. In 31 other passages man swears to God and man (cp. Dan. 12:7).

6. Christ directs John concerning what to write and not to write (cp. Rev. 1:11,19; 2:1,8,12,18; 3:1,7,12,14; 10:4; 14:13-14; 19:9; 21:5).

7. In Rev. 11:3 we have definite proof that the angel is Christ, for He says, I will give power unto My two witnesses. This proves Him to be a divine person.

Finis Jennings Dake, Dake's Annotated Reference Bible: Containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version Text, (Lawrenceville, GA: Dake Bible Sales, Inc., 1997), WORDsearch CROSS e-book, Under: "Chapter 10".


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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:33 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:33 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:02 am
Yes, Dake thought so.
Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?
How about...the bible says it was an angel?
And, how would that rule out the idea that the angel is Jesus?
Jesus isn't an angel.
It is written..."But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?" (Heb 1:13)



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Hill Top wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:24 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:33 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:33 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:02 am
Yes, Dake thought so.
Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?
How about...the bible says it was an angel?
And, how would that rule out the idea that the angel is Jesus?
Jesus isn't an angel.
It is written..."But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?" (Heb 1:13)
Genesis 48:15-16 New King James Version
And he blessed Joseph, and said: "God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, The God who has fed me all my life long to this day, The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads; Let my name be named upon them, And the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; And let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."

What do you make of the Redeeming Angel that is God that Joseph spoke of?


Matthew 5:19-20 New King James Version
"Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."

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Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:36 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:24 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:33 pm
Hill Top wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:33 pm
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:02 am
Yes, Dake thought so.
Any biblical reason why this angel could not be Jesus?
How about...the bible says it was an angel?
And, how would that rule out the idea that the angel is Jesus?
Jesus isn't an angel.
It is written..."But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?" (Heb 1:13)
Genesis 48:15-16 New King James Version
And he blessed Joseph, and said: "God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, The God who has fed me all my life long to this day, The Angel who has redeemed me from all evil, Bless the lads; Let my name be named upon them, And the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; And let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth."

What do you make of the Redeeming Angel that is God that Joseph spoke of?
I think it is Israel speaking, and I feel that Israel could differentiate between God and an angel, and as the word "Angel" is capitalized in this instance, that Israel is making a generality of "all spiritual help and helpers" in Gen 14.



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Please, explain the Genesis 14 connection a little further.

Thank you.


Matthew 5:19-20 New King James Version
"Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."

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