OK, I'm caught up...after a reread.luchnia wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:42 pmYou must have misunderstood the text I typed.Hill Top wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 1:34 pmYes they can...but no they can't?luchnia wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 6:33 amSin is cruel and deception is yet another challenge to decipher.Grandfather wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:52 pmThis is more of a philosophical question that I do not think can be answered with a simple Bible verse. Perhaps I am wrong. The question is, do we fully realize the depth and scope of sin? I am not asking what sin does, but sin itself. Do we fully understand the deception it hides under? Do we recognize every "angel of light" that brings a false message? Is it possible for a child of God to be deceived and as a result to be "in sin" without knowing it?
I think the scripture answers part of your question with a resounding yes, it is possible for a child of God to be deceived and be in sin as Jesus and others clearly taught, yet it is my opinion he or she will fully know it.
Since James explain how sin works it would be impossible for one not to know it because it is birthed in the heart of man. Man can act as if he doesn't know, but he does. Now deception is the tricky one and counterfeits are as close to perfect as they can be.
And I agree that if they "know it", it isn't deception but just serving the allegedly dead flesh.