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UNTIL you have walked in the shoes or felt the pain of another human being

DON'T Judge them

Dismiss them

Marginalize them

Or ever even begin to presume to know their struggle.



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Well said Billy :angel:

Matthew 7:1-5, 1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3, And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4, Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5, Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Luke 6: 37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

James 4:12, There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Romans 2: 1,Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Thank you for the information Haz. :angel: :angel:
Ironman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:23 pm
Well said Billy :angel:

Matthew 7:1-5, 1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3, And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4, Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5, Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Luke 6: 37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

James 4:12, There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Romans 2: 1,Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.



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branham1965 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:14 am

Satan is alive and well on planet earth.
The devil and demon powers incessantly attack and try to destroy peoples souls,minds and bodies.
I get no feel of that here at all.
Isn't that a goof thing?
Just hyper criticism and the so called perfectionism and the like.
Didn't Jesus command us to be "therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect"? (Matt 5:48)
And what is the alternative to prefect obedience to God?



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I am joking on here a bit.

BUT i will never judge and condemn everyone on earth because they do not embrace my odd form of religion.

The judgement's here are not only on world religions.

But now the greatest Full Gospel leaders are not spared by some.

When Kenneth Hagin is no good im like see you.



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Why not judge the doctrines and fruit and not condemn someone for judgment?

If a person (insert name here) speaks false doctrine then make a sound judgment. Some tend to forget the words Jesus spoke about making righteous judgment and all the scriptures that show the things you are to judge even down to the smallest of matters.

We are indeed called to judge many things and doctrines are one the many and taking scriptures out of context will never negate that truth. To judge is also different as passing judgment upon someone. Would anyone say that the civil judges are wrong for judging by man's law in civil matters? What about God's disciples that made judgment calls every day?

BTW, where does God's word say that demons have power against a child of God that Jesus works through? Demons or the devil have NOTHING against one of God's people, absolutely zilch. To say such is like saying that Jesus is weak and that the Spirit is powerless walking with the saint. Now when a person decides to go back and follow satan as his master that is a different matter entirely and they are exposed to his darkness.


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:neutral: :neutral:

How odd that Satan tempted the Lord.

Satan even hindered Saint Paul.All the apostles were murdered for their faith except John the beloved.

That strange theology that believers are not attacked by the world ,flesh and devil...is absolute nonsense.
luchnia wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:04 am
Why not judge the doctrines and fruit and not condemn someone for judgment?

If a person (insert name here) speaks false doctrine then make a sound judgment. Some tend to forget the words Jesus spoke about making righteous judgment and all the scriptures that show the things you are to judge even down to the smallest of matters.

We are indeed called to judge many things and doctrines are one the many and taking scriptures out of context will never negate that truth. To judge is also different as passing judgment upon someone. Would anyone say that the civil judges are wrong for judging by man's law in civil matters? What about God's disciples that made judgment calls every day?

BTW, where does God's word say that demons have power against a child of God that Jesus works through? Demons or the devil have NOTHING against one of God's people, absolutely zilch. To say such is like saying that Jesus is weak and that the Spirit is powerless walking with the saint. Now when a person decides to go back and follow satan as his master that is a different matter entirely and they are exposed to his darkness.



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luchnia wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:06 am

Typed text in a chat forum is all about perception, isn't it!

People will read into things and then it becomes a personal sensitive nature instead of approaching it from the wisdom of God, which is not sensual, devilish, or self-awarding. It is more peaceable, pure, easy to entreat, and constantly working for the proper understanding by the Spirit that guides us.

We can disagree and still have great respect for one another. It simply takes purpose driven practice.
Typed text hides the nuances of the typer's intentions and experiences, but lends credence to the verse stating that "faith cometh by hearing".
I don't think anyone can be converted via internet.
It's got to be a face-to-face exchanges that change a man.



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branham1965 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:58 pm
All you guys are innocent and pure as the driven snow.

Get real.
Because of Jesus we are purer than driven snow - praise be to God for what He has done for us. We are pure as He is pure because it is Him in us that is pure! :angel:


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luchnia wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:58 am
branham1965 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:58 pm
All you guys are innocent and pure as the driven snow.

Get real.
Because of Jesus we are purer than driven snow - praise be to God for what He has done for us. We are pure as He is pure because it is Him in us that is pure! :angel:
Jesus is not ashamed to call us brethren. (Heb 2:11)



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