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Re: Non Christians

Post by branham1965 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm

Preach it mate. :angel: :angel:
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Re: Non Christians

Post by branham1965 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 pm

Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:22 pm
Untill one turns to God and repents, all it takes in "ONE" sin, just one.

Like it or not , you was a sinners just like every other human being on this planet, past, present and future, until one turns to God for forgiveness.
All people inherited sin from Adam and Eve, specifically from Adam. Sin is described in the Bible as transgression of the law of God (1 John 3:4) and rebellion against God (Deuteronomy 9:7; Joshua 1:18). Genesis 3 describes Adam and Eve’s rebellion against God and His command. Because of Adam and Eve’s disobedience, sin has been an “inheritance” for all of their descendants. Romans 5:12 tells us that, through Adam, sin entered the world and so death was passed on to all men because all have sinned. This passed-on sin is known as inherited sin. Just as we inherit physical characteristics from our parents, we inherit our sinful nature from Adam.



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Re: Non Christians

Post by branham1965 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:31 pm

AMEN HAZ.
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??



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Re: Non Christians

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm

Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??
We're they meeting with Him in a church?



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Re: Non Christians

Post by branham1965 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:37 pm

Ask to talk to one of the leaders of World Harvest Church and see what they tell you.
I never heard anything like that in my life.

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:18 pm
branham1965 wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:15 pm
Charles G.Finney called that CENSORIOUSNESS.It is defined as marked by or given to censure,critical etc.

Can you imagine if Pastor Parsley or Rich Nathan practiced that!!!!

My Pastor could handle the hardest of cases because he had Power with God.He ministered in over 48 nations preaching and praying for people (Mark 16:15ff)with Morris Cerullo and Dr.Alexander Ness of Canada.
Can you imagine Dad Hagin or Kenneth Copeland talking like that!!!!!!!!
Can you imagine Reverend Ernest Angley closing the Cathedral to sinners!!!Not to go to Africa and take the Jesus Ministry all over the world!!!
I would not be the one to lay that on the man of God.

The Lord Jesus Christ is not here to call the modern day Pharissees,Sadducees and the Luke18:9-14 crowd.

JESUS CHRIST loves people .He is here to minister life not death to hurting people JESUS heals broken people .He loves sinners and wants them to receive Him. Read Luke 4:18,Acts 10:38. JESUS preached and preaches the acceptable year of the Lord.The gospel of reconciliation.
Not beating people over the head with the Bible.
What I'm talking about isn't censoriousness. To call it such is an over-reaction, in my opinion. Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?

However, I think that being overly critical of my Bible-based position could rise to censoriousness.



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Re: Non Christians

Post by branham1965 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:38 pm

ARE YOU KIDDING???
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??
We're they meeting with Him in a church?



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Re: Non Christians

Post by Ironman » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:40 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??
We're they meeting with Him in a church?
So your saying Jesus only saved those who attended a church??

Jesus went out and DELIBERATELY SAUGHT SINNERS OUT,

Jesus never went to the temple to save the rightious?? Those in church were probably saved as were Ananias, and Sapphira, untill they deliberately lied to the Holy Spirit.

Got to go, see you tomorrow.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Non Christians

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:51 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??
We're they meeting with Him in a church?
branham1965 wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:38 pm
ARE YOU KIDDING???
Nope. We are talking about what Paul instructed concerning the Corinthians and purging out the leaven from the fellowship. Church is to be a gathering of saints. Not a gathering of sinners.



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Re: Non Christians

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:52 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 pm
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:25 pm
SPD wrote;
" Why is it so hard to accept the idea that those publically known to be unrepentantly committing death penalty sins ought not come to church until they prove their repentance?"
Tell us? Did the publicans and sinners Jesus mixed with prove to Him that they had repented of their sins before He associated with them??
We're they meeting with Him in a church?
Ironman wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:40 pm
So your saying Jesus only saved those who attended a church??

Jesus went out and DELIBERATELY SAUGHT SINNERS OUT,

Jesus never went to the temple to save the rightious?? Those in church were probably saved as were Ananias, and Sapphira, untill they deliberately lied to the Holy Spirit.

Got to go, see you tomorrow.
Not at all what I'm saying.

We are talking about what Paul instructed concerning the Corinthians and purging out the leaven from the fellowship. Church is to be a gathering of saints. Not a gathering of sinners.

Ideally, evangelism should take place outside of the church meeting and only the saved should attend the church meeting.



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Re: Non Christians

Post by Hill Top » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:30 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:29 am
We could debate that, but the fact remains that it would be difficult to refuse admittance to church to those whom we do not know are committing grievous sins.
I have found that sinners don't like to hang around with the obedient for very long.
They change or leave of their own accord .



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