Read Romans 6:1-14 on how to be alive to God by the death of the old man and raising of the new man which does not involve water. Jesus was not baptized at His death. We were buried with him by baptism INTO death not water. In other words we died, put the old man away, and now walk in newness of life.Hill Top wrote: How do those who don't believe in water baptism's efficacy believe their old man is killed, buried, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life?
Read Hebrews 10:1-18 to see how by His offering we are sanctified. Also read Romans 5:1-18 for justification through His blood. Neither have anything to do with water baptism.Hill Top wrote: How do they think the blood of Christ is applied to them for there sanctification and justification?
This question is somewhat unrelated and I really don't know what they say about it, but if anyone is still committing sin and think they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts, they are lying to and deceiving themselves.Hill Top wrote: What do they say when it turns out they are still committing sin when they thought "they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts"?
My guess is they do that to attempt to justify sin as if to be blameless. You and I both know that one in Christ, has crucified the flesh with its affections and lusts and are not in sin. We also know that one in sin, serves sin.